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Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
(October 20, 2017 at 7:52 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(October 20, 2017 at 7:38 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: I don't want any bullshit scripture; what is your personal reason for disliking homosexuality?

There are many, but we have to first talk about what it means to be a human...there is two types of humans: "Man" and "Woman", and there are many different types of Men and many different types of women.

First I argue, if free-will is a factor, we all know it would be wrong to give in and change our nature we are originated upon.  This I argue we know. The question is how do we know this?

This is our knowledge of what we are. Aaron has a major definition with his brotherhood and helping position towards Moses.  He is defined with respect to Moses primarily by people.

How do we define ourselves as "Man", we do with respect to "Woman", we cannot ignore what we are to woman and what woman are to us. As far as being man, it is stupid to divorce it from your relationship to women.

Now what is a human and what is his potential. I believe unlike most things, humans are moldy, that is they can mold their nature and make it,  and if it molded in an ugly manner, it can be broken and remolded to a beautiful manner.

We will have our own trials, and will be afflicted with different evil thoughts and different goods thoughts, and have to battle it out.

The actions that are quick and fast, they have little value. What has really value is the constant behaviour, deeds with consistency whence they become habits, and whence the habits become our nature.

Our nature at the end, is the most important thing.

Now listen carefully because all the discussion is to lead to this so as to relate it to homosexuality:

If we are made by passing of winds without out control, storms just forming us, we by definition are forfeiting our power to forge our souls, and giving into winds which are chaotic, we are giving into chaos, and are not firm in ordering our souls to according to guidance. This is exactly why I have intense guilt for my mental illness. It is not different at all from a homosexual giving into winds forming him, rather, then forging forth with reason and insight and holding on the guidance. 

In fact, I would argue my sin is much worse than that of homosexuals, but that is a different topic.

Suffice to say,  I believe disbelief in God or equating value with God or following leaders aside from those that God has chosen, are similar in evil. 

But my evil, giving up rationality and reason, and giving into dark whispers of irrationality whence I lost my sanity despite guides showing a way out, and fearing Satanic forces whence it is only Satan and irrationally that makes us fear them,  was of the deadliest falls, and biggest injustice.

But I can tell you, there is no way to reform yourself, without the first step: responsibility.

And we can see for sure man and woman is a beautiful relationship, even if homo was not ugly, it is much less beautiful then hetero and we are originated to be attracted to what is more upright and more beautiful and honorable, and so the big sin of this would be giving up ones will and letting chaos determine their inclinations and nature.

We forge our nature through will power and insight, give that up, and you become enslaved to darkness and chaos.

Anyone willing to address this argument, I don't expect anyone to agree, all I want to see is if someone can comprehend the argument.
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Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by MysticKnight - October 19, 2017 at 7:02 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 19, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Minimalist - October 19, 2017 at 7:23 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 19, 2017 at 7:22 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by ignoramus - October 19, 2017 at 7:30 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by chimp3 - October 19, 2017 at 7:22 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Succubus - October 19, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Succubus - October 19, 2017 at 7:30 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 19, 2017 at 11:36 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Succubus - October 19, 2017 at 7:32 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 12:28 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Astreja - October 20, 2017 at 12:33 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 12:36 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by brewer - October 19, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 19, 2017 at 7:40 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Fireball - October 19, 2017 at 8:17 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 19, 2017 at 8:31 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Minimalist - October 19, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by c152 - October 19, 2017 at 8:44 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by c152 - October 19, 2017 at 9:07 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 19, 2017 at 9:54 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 20, 2017 at 12:14 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 4:35 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 19, 2017 at 11:22 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 19, 2017 at 10:00 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by drfuzzy - October 19, 2017 at 10:27 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Whateverist - October 19, 2017 at 10:42 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by vorlon13 - October 19, 2017 at 11:13 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 19, 2017 at 11:20 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 19, 2017 at 11:56 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Fireball - October 20, 2017 at 1:10 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by ignoramus - October 20, 2017 at 3:40 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by paulpablo - October 20, 2017 at 2:34 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 8:59 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 9:37 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 9:57 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:12 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 9:44 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:02 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by paulpablo - October 20, 2017 at 9:52 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by bennyboy - October 20, 2017 at 2:49 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by bennyboy - October 20, 2017 at 4:28 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by ignoramus - October 20, 2017 at 4:05 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by SaStrike - October 20, 2017 at 4:48 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by chimp3 - October 20, 2017 at 4:56 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Succubus - October 20, 2017 at 5:39 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by drfuzzy - October 20, 2017 at 10:53 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Aroura - October 20, 2017 at 5:45 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 20, 2017 at 6:12 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 20, 2017 at 6:24 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by drfuzzy - October 20, 2017 at 12:25 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Astreja - October 20, 2017 at 1:27 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by ignoramus - October 20, 2017 at 7:28 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Succubus - October 20, 2017 at 2:54 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Minimalist - October 20, 2017 at 3:22 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 20, 2017 at 3:25 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Fireball - October 20, 2017 at 4:40 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 7:21 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Fireball - October 20, 2017 at 8:26 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Pat Mustard - October 21, 2017 at 10:31 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Losty - October 20, 2017 at 2:58 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 20, 2017 at 6:37 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 6:45 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 7:01 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 7:38 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 7:55 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 7:58 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by c172 - October 20, 2017 at 8:03 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 8:07 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 8:14 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 8:21 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by MysticKnight - October 20, 2017 at 8:31 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 8:52 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 20, 2017 at 8:52 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by chimp3 - October 20, 2017 at 8:34 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 9:13 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 9:53 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 9:48 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 9:43 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 20, 2017 at 9:56 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 10:01 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Losty - October 20, 2017 at 11:46 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by bennyboy - October 21, 2017 at 5:40 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 9:59 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 9:55 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 10:10 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 10:15 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 20, 2017 at 10:15 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 10:18 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 20, 2017 at 10:24 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 21, 2017 at 4:16 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Whateverist - October 20, 2017 at 10:10 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:14 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:32 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:36 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 10:50 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:58 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Succubus - October 20, 2017 at 11:31 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 10:27 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:34 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 10:37 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:41 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Whateverist - October 20, 2017 at 10:15 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:18 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 10:23 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:29 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 12:59 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 10:25 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 10:27 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Whateverist - October 20, 2017 at 10:31 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 20, 2017 at 10:31 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Astreja - October 20, 2017 at 11:28 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:38 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 10:40 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 10:59 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 11:11 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 11:06 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 20, 2017 at 11:11 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 21, 2017 at 12:07 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 1:46 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 21, 2017 at 2:07 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 21, 2017 at 2:10 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 2:27 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 21, 2017 at 2:35 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 2:39 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 3:48 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 21, 2017 at 3:03 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 4:00 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 10:11 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by J a c k - October 21, 2017 at 10:46 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 4:04 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by J a c k - October 21, 2017 at 11:03 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by rexbeccarox - October 21, 2017 at 12:07 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 12:21 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by J a c k - October 21, 2017 at 12:35 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 4:27 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 5:25 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by LastPoet - October 21, 2017 at 6:07 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by LastPoet - October 21, 2017 at 6:24 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 7:15 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by LastPoet - October 21, 2017 at 7:25 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 7:38 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 8:55 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 21, 2017 at 7:52 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 21, 2017 at 10:08 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 10:34 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 21, 2017 at 10:37 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 12:50 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 21, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 2:54 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 21, 2017 at 3:00 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 21, 2017 at 9:54 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Losty - October 23, 2017 at 1:24 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 21, 2017 at 10:38 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 10:49 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 11:04 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 22, 2017 at 4:38 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 21, 2017 at 10:55 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 11:10 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 21, 2017 at 11:14 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 21, 2017 at 11:51 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 22, 2017 at 12:14 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 22, 2017 at 1:16 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 22, 2017 at 2:39 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 22, 2017 at 5:21 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 22, 2017 at 5:48 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 22, 2017 at 7:46 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 22, 2017 at 8:41 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 22, 2017 at 8:51 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 22, 2017 at 9:08 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 22, 2017 at 6:18 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 22, 2017 at 5:18 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 22, 2017 at 5:01 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 23, 2017 at 12:01 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 22, 2017 at 5:21 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 22, 2017 at 5:49 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 22, 2017 at 8:28 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 23, 2017 at 12:17 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 22, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 22, 2017 at 5:05 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by drfuzzy - October 22, 2017 at 11:25 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 23, 2017 at 6:02 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Losty - October 23, 2017 at 12:30 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 23, 2017 at 12:34 pm

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