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Two scenarios that may/may not happen.
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RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen.
(October 12, 2017 at 8:55 am)RayOfLight Wrote: Those who read my thread on the Introduction section know that I'm struggling with my Christian faith. However, I'm not calling myself Atheist yet, even though there are days when I really want to, but try to hang in there for a bit longer.
 
Two scenarios that usually come to my mind when I think of regarding two issues, 1) The theory of Evolution, 2) Jesus existence and his followers in the first century.
 
The first, being the guy of "hypothetical situations" which I'm known to family and friends, I wonder if the theory of Evolution was ever "proven" wrong, even though so far barely any of that happened, but considering that science demands that any hypothesis be falsifiable, there is a small chance that the theory of Evolution may be turned upside down, but as I said, this is just a hypothetical situation. So, based on that, does it follow that the creation story in the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) is true? Would your atheism be "shaken" if such far stretching hypothetical situation ever became a reality? And why?
 
The second issue regarding Christ's existence.  I'm less enthusiastic to accept the claim that Jesus never existed. A good number of historians agree that he lived, also considering what I learned so far about history at university, we can't be 100% sure, after all, history is subjective. History is based on records from people who have their own agendas and biases, and it is a fact that they chose what or include and not include in their writings, it doesn't follow that something didn't happen or a person didn't exist just because some writings don't include such event or person. Also, there are chances that in the future we may find a good and reliable evidence for people that believed never to have existed. Therefore, it is safe not to be so "sure." What do you think of such argument?


I give you a bit of advice Ray.

First remember that in this forum you are dealing with people that think that the universe pop up as per magic
and nobody run it so is all up in the air.
There is no evidence for anything.
It is all a magic universe in which nothing works as per logic.
But it rather works if it suit atheists way of thinking.
The logic doesn't exist in here.

Second talking about the evolution.

Most religious people believe only in creation although more and more open mind people now come to the conclusion that evolution is also real.

Atheists instead believe only in evolution.

I on the other hand believe that creation and evolution go hand in hand.

We born from our parents and at the same time we evolve into adults so both creation and evolution are real.
Our consciousness was not given by our parents.
It evolved from lower forms of lives but the initial start was a God creation.
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Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by RayOfLight - October 12, 2017 at 8:55 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by brewer - October 12, 2017 at 9:12 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Whateverist - October 12, 2017 at 9:15 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Aoi Magi - October 12, 2017 at 9:21 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Joods - October 12, 2017 at 9:30 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Huggy Bear - October 31, 2017 at 12:24 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Joods - October 31, 2017 at 12:58 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Succubus - October 31, 2017 at 5:31 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Huggy Bear - October 31, 2017 at 10:53 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Fake Messiah - November 1, 2017 at 12:58 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Huggy Bear - November 1, 2017 at 10:52 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Harry Nevis - November 1, 2017 at 11:35 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Huggy Bear - November 1, 2017 at 12:12 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Harry Nevis - November 1, 2017 at 1:30 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Fake Messiah - November 2, 2017 at 4:35 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Abaddon_ire - November 2, 2017 at 10:01 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Crossless2.0 - November 2, 2017 at 8:46 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by KevinM1 - October 12, 2017 at 9:54 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Minimalist - October 12, 2017 at 10:47 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by RayOfLight - October 13, 2017 at 12:04 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 12:11 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Harry Nevis - October 13, 2017 at 11:12 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by JackRussell - October 12, 2017 at 11:04 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Minimalist - October 12, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Hammok Man - October 12, 2017 at 7:05 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Cyberman - October 12, 2017 at 8:50 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Minimalist - October 12, 2017 at 8:51 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by RayOfLight - October 13, 2017 at 12:10 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by RayOfLight - October 13, 2017 at 12:23 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Minimalist - October 13, 2017 at 12:20 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by KevinM1 - October 13, 2017 at 12:28 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by RayOfLight - October 13, 2017 at 12:30 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by RayOfLight - October 13, 2017 at 12:40 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by RayOfLight - October 13, 2017 at 12:45 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by RayOfLight - October 13, 2017 at 12:51 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 12:54 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by mordant - October 14, 2017 at 7:56 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 21, 2017 at 5:22 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Succubus - October 22, 2017 at 12:06 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Amarok - October 13, 2017 at 1:20 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by ignoramus - October 15, 2017 at 4:36 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Cyberman - October 21, 2017 at 9:58 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Little Rik - October 22, 2017 at 5:18 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Whateverist - October 22, 2017 at 7:31 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Little Rik - October 22, 2017 at 10:08 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Crossless2.0 - October 22, 2017 at 5:26 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Little Rik - October 22, 2017 at 5:36 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Crossless2.0 - October 22, 2017 at 6:15 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Ravenshire - October 22, 2017 at 3:17 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Cyberman - October 22, 2017 at 8:09 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Cyberman - October 22, 2017 at 1:57 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Pat Mustard - October 22, 2017 at 6:09 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Little Rik - October 23, 2017 at 9:23 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Little Rik - October 27, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Whateverist - October 27, 2017 at 9:47 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Little Rik - October 27, 2017 at 9:58 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Little Rik - October 28, 2017 at 5:34 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Little Rik - October 28, 2017 at 9:33 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Little Rik - October 29, 2017 at 9:14 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Harry Nevis - October 30, 2017 at 9:28 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Little Rik - October 30, 2017 at 5:43 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Aegon - October 30, 2017 at 11:00 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Succubus - October 30, 2017 at 1:44 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Little Rik - October 31, 2017 at 7:50 am
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by LuisDantas - October 31, 2017 at 12:13 pm
RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen. - by Cyberman - November 2, 2017 at 11:11 am

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