RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
October 27, 2017 at 2:32 pm
(This post was last modified: October 27, 2017 at 2:39 pm by SteveII.)
(October 27, 2017 at 1:21 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(October 27, 2017 at 8:42 am)SteveII Wrote: Regardless as to your position on evolution, this statement just isn't true unless you equivocate on the definition of 'evolution'. The word can be used in three senses:
1. Evolution (defined as "decent with modification")
2. Evolution (defined as "the mechanism that accounts for evolutionary change")
3. Evolution (defined as "reconstructing evolutionary history")
The second and third definitions are not testable and there are significant gaps in our knowledge about them. You think they are correct because #1 is correct and then through inferred by a naturalistic worldview, the other two must be correct--but that is a far cry from fact.
All 3 are well understood:
https://www.nap.edu/catalog/6024/science...academy-of
That's funny, because from your own link, the very first sentence starts with..."While the mechanisms of evolution are still under investigation..." Why do you think they start the entire description of their paper off with that phrase? It's not even like it was buried on page 47, it's the very first sentence.
The mechanism is not understood. While there are some theories on how portions of it might work, both it and evolutionary history is inferred by #1 being a testable/observable fact coupled to an assumption of naturalism.
(October 27, 2017 at 1:39 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I would like Steve, et. al., to tell us how old they think the Earth & Universe to be. If they say that they don't know or give a Biblical value, then I think that they need to consult a quality mental health professional in addition to a quality science textbook.
I think it is what it appears to be:
Universe: 13+ billion years old
Earth: 4+ billion years old
I am open to where the science leads us.