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For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
(October 30, 2017 at 1:05 pm)SteveII Wrote:
(October 28, 2017 at 4:24 am)Mathilda Wrote: I find it amazing how religionists like Stevell and Godschild will just blatantly say something to be the true because they wish it were. Yes, the mechanisms in evolution are well understood. Just because it is being ever refined does not mean to say that it is not understood. It has been this way for a while now. The theory of evolution has been tested many times, both in theory using computer programs and in practice through experiments with breeding animals, on bacteria, and through observations in the wild.

Thank you for the perfect example of conflating (a fallacy) the word 'evolution'. You state that "the mechanisms in evolution are well understood"--a reference to definition #2 and then go on and cite support all having to do with #1.

It's perfectly reasoned to believe all these things, but attempting to oversell our knowledge produces nothing but long, unproductive arguments. #2 and #3 are not well understood and for obvious reasons are hard to study. 

For Reference, the word can be used in at least three senses. The reason you need to keep track of which meaning is being used, is because there is proof and universal agreement on #1. There is less on #2 and even less on #3. 

1. Evolution (defined as "decent with modification") 
2. Evolution (defined as "the mechanism that accounts for evolutionary change") 
3. Evolution (defined as "reconstructing evolutionary history")

I am referring to the theory of evolution and Darwinian evolution. The theory accounts for all three of your utterly arbitrarily limited definitions. Your definitions are useless except to allow you to magic up ways to make it look like you are refuting what I am saying.

It only looks like I am overselling the knowledge we have if you yourself are ignorant. But it's easier to say no one knows than to do the research and learn what we do know. You are staying deliberately ignorant so you can believe your fantasy.
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RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution. - by I_am_not_mafia - October 30, 2017 at 1:53 pm

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