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For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
(November 2, 2017 at 9:06 am)Jehanne Wrote:
(November 2, 2017 at 9:00 am)SteveII Wrote: 1. I don't disagree with any of that.
2. If the supernatural has affected the natural world, then there is no in incoherency.
3. You are just replacing God with "we don't know" and ignoring the possibility of God having a causal effect on the natural world. You are defining reality to exclude God and then saying why bring God into the picture. You are question begging.

1)  Theism is not well defined -- people of good will disagree on who or what is "god" or what his/her/its attributes and/or characteristics are; 2)  Theism is, according to many people of good will, incoherent and self-contradictory ("Can God make a rock so big that he cannot lift it"?); 3) Theism makes no strong predictions about the natural world; there is no dispassionate, disinterested observation that anyone can make in support of theism; 4)  Theism is not falsifiable -- there is no observation that one could ever make that could ever disprove theism; 5)  Theism is constantly changing -- religions change and contradict each other and themselves over time; it is impossible for any neutral observer to determine which one is "correct," if any.

But, but!  They just know cuz of those magical feelies, plus old book says so. If only Steve would hold the claims in his Bible to same standards of evidence that he holds evolution to, lol.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution. - by LadyForCamus - November 2, 2017 at 9:51 am

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