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RE: Can someone debunk this

November 2, 2017 at 11:11 am

(November 2, 2017 at 10:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(November 2, 2017 at 10:37 am)Cyberman Wrote: No. It's the wrong question because it's a red herring. The apropos question is not how Astreja would correct the 'design', but why the 'design' should require correcting.

We must first figure out IF the design CAN be corrected to determine if there is even a flaw...

So once again, how would you improve the design?

No, we don't. If god designed it, he increases suffering with it, as he could have designed it perfectly, being god.

"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam

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