(November 2, 2017 at 4:48 pm)SteveII Wrote:(November 2, 2017 at 4:20 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Things don't all have to happen one after the other you know, eyes and nervous systems can both gain complexity at the same time.
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You are just restating the theory--not explaining any of it. If the mechanism of evolution is a known scientific fact, my questions should have fairly straightforward answers: How do seemingly irreducibly complex systems evolve when the development of the component parts require each other to confer a survival benefit? Don't use generalities. They eye is a good example.
There are a number of reasons why your argument here fails:
A: Something that appears irreducibly complex may not in fact be so.
B: Evolution can discard parts as well as add.
C: Parts can change their usage.
The eye has probably one of the best known evolutionary paths and I know you have been told about this on a number of occasions in the past.
But here we go.
Firstly a brief explanation of the evolution of senses. All senses rely on a similar process, electrical impulses. At the simplest level you can see paramecium use the deformation of its surface to sense hitting something by changing the level of negative and positive electrons internally and this reverses the pulses of its flagella by using waves of electricity, nothing that compares to a nervous system but you have the basis of sensing and reacting. From this you can evolve a brain.
The simplest known proto eye is an eyespot or light sensing organelle found on algae and other unicelled creatures that senses when its dark or light and can use similar methods to the paramecium to move towards light/away from dark.
From there you can evolve the eye and associated neural functions.
From a light sensing spot if you add a bit of a dip you can sense the direction the light is and that gives more information for the evolving creature to use with its evolving neural system
The deeper the dip, the better the information, until you get a sphere.
Then you can have a number of light sensing spots, people grow extra heads from time to time so adding extra things is a common mutation, adding spots gives the ability to see shapes.
I'm sure you can take it from there. I have shown you how to evolve a working eye, sensing apparatus and neural network there.
You can find similar processes for everything if you care to look.
By the way, what is your suggested alternative? I want an answer at least as detailed as the one I gave above.
So now you have a rudimentary eye
So
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