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For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution.
(November 4, 2017 at 9:06 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(November 3, 2017 at 8:59 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I didn't have time to watch the video....

Do they have new facts concerning the evolution of the eye;  or did they just shine up some old "just so" stories?
My favorite part of the old show, was when with some nifty slight of hand, they pull some lenses, some cones, and other stuff out of thin air (abracadabra style) when they think no one is looking.  I'm always curious if this is the case, then why don't we see this kind of stuff popping up all over the place? It seems only to be where and when needed (which doesn't sound very random or unintentional to me).

My favorite part is how you guys would have to actually witness the evolution of the human eye from start to finish with your own two in order to satisfy your incredulity of the process, yet you'll accept the claim that a person came back from the dead based on nothing but a book of magic stories written by unverifiable sources two-thousand years ago.  This hypocrisy is unmatched.

That doesn't represent my position at all; I'm curious where you got that from?

From our previous conversations (concerning testimony, it sounds much more like your position, where I would have no epistemological obligation to accept the testimony of these "scientists" and could just dismiss their claims and observations as stories without evidence. Would this not be correct?

Also I don't see where the hypocrisy is on my part either. I fairly certain you misunderstand and are not accurately representing my position, which results in the perceived contradiction.

Quote:I mean, if we just said, 'God did evolution with his inexplicable god-powers,' instead of, ya know, learning about it via evidence and observation, would that make it more palatable to you?  Because, that seems to be a perfectly satisfactory explaination for all your other beliefs.

There you go.... talking for me again! My views of the various claims made under the term evolution are based on observations and evidence both personal and the testimony of others. My theological views have very little to do with it.

(November 4, 2017 at 9:14 am)Succubus Wrote:
(November 3, 2017 at 8:59 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I didn't have time to watch the video....

Do they have new facts concerning the evolution of the eye;  or did they just shine up some old "just so" stories?
My favorite part of the old show, was when with some nifty slight of hand, they pull some lenses, some cones, and other stuff out of thin air (abracadabra style) when they think no one is looking.  I'm always curious if this is the case, then why don't we see this kind of stuff popping up all over the place? It seems only to be where and when needed (which doesn't sound very random or unintentional to me).

To my great surprise I find myself intrigued by one of your posts. Could you give me a link or some sort of a clue as to what you're talking about.

This was mostly my opinion of previous arguments I have heard on the subject.  But what in particular peaked your interest?
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: For Christians (or anyone else) who deny Darwinian evolution. - by RoadRunner79 - November 4, 2017 at 11:55 am

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