For Rich Fetuses Only, Though

[The Grand Nudger]

No issues with born poor child support.

I suspect that most people with half a heart and an ounce of sense would agree with us on that count.  Not everyone..mind you, it's all to common too see the children of takers as little takers who will grow up to be big takers.  Probably has something to due with a lack of upward mobility and opportunity. We have a nasty habit of cutting programs that benefit them to pay for corporate welfare..regardless of whether we have half a heart or an ounce of sense.

If I don't know crushing poverty personally so I doubt I can comment on what mental state (the despair) that can place a person in, the sense of hopelessness. I have certainly lived poor, for periods of time, by choice while chasing the opportunity of change. I never felt the despair.

Despair.....?  Despite, as in, despite working hard..they were born poor, and so they stay poor..regardless whether or not they despair of or for being poor.  That;s just the state of social mobility in today's america.  

What college degrees are we discussing? Art history, 19th century french poetry, everyone can be a computer programmer? If the person chooses a poor educational path considering the job market they squandered their opportunity in my view. This is what I like or want to do does not necessarily guarantee employment.  

Would it matter?  If the garbage collectors can't get a living wage -and- the college grads can't get a living wage...do we not need garbage collection, do we not need art history, do we not need poetry...is there -any- job that a human being does that shouldn't pay a living wage?  If a person can't live doing something, how are we going to get it done?

Layoffs, grey area is if the person contributed to the lack of success of the company, I seen and lived thru it. In a depressed area, move. In a depressed job field, change. Or don't change and accept the circumstances. 

Move....the life of a drifter is the route to financial security and stability?  What are they supposed to do with their assets, their children in school?  This sounds like a cute answer but it's monstrous.  Should the circumstances of the place of your birth or home mean that you can't make a living wage, that you can't afford a home?  It sounds simple when it's someone else, but I don't think anyone has really thought this through in the context of migratory manufacturing.  Wherever you move -to- is just the next place the layoffs happen.  

What can we do? Create more jobs and employment opportunities that have market value. Someone in another thread mentioned the value of a post war economy. What drove that economy, production of items the market values.

"Create more jobs".  I've heard that magical phrase alot, it seems difficult to pull of in practice.  The government can "create jobs" by paying one group of people to dig holes and another to fill them (or, roads and whatnot..take yourt pick). How does that sound?

What drove the post war economy was the sudden return of people with piled up pay and the gi bill, the loss of many american workers in the war, and increasing production efficiency in the form of limited automation....among other things...... like that tiny little detail of the rest of the industrialized world having been recently laid to waste.

Not sure how we're going to replicate that..........I mean, I know we could, but....   

Those who denigrate the poor who want change are foolish and misguided.

Those who denigrate the poor are foolish and misguided, period. They aren't poor for having chosen to be poor. That's not how poverty works, never has been. I doubt that theres ever been a group of people in all of human history that have wanted change and more change...more than the poor. Somehow, though, the poor remain..well....poor. Why do you think that is?