(November 4, 2017 at 1:31 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Here, allow me to make a suggestion..and follow it up with a question. It seems to me that you don't doubt evolutionary biology, or even speciation. You just think that some, or most of it (though not all, I doubt you believe that god is painting the individual plumage patterns on every single bird) is attributable to artificial selection. Would that be accurate?
If it is, might your position on the matter be more thoroughly and competently argued by referring to that artificial selection, and how you can distinguish it from natural selection...than by arguing against the theory that explains how both work?
(hey, also, if you're the kind that believes in kinds...what are the chances you might handle that list I posted?)
Well, I don't have too much issue with the topic of natural selection. Other than I think that some have a somewhat idealized vision of it, where every slight advantage is selected and magnified. The reality of it is more complicated; but that is a discussion concerning population genetics and a little off topic. It would seem that your use of the phrase artificial selection would be more in relation to means by which novel functions or systems come about and whatever is being proposed under an evolutionary standpoint.
If someone is asking me, if I believe in evolution; I'm going to ask two questions in return. What specifically, are you asking me to agree to; and, why do you think I should believe that?
As to your question, I do believe in many of the tenets of intelligent design, and I also believe that there are natural processes at work.
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