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Can someone debunk this
RE: Can someone debunk this
Downbeat's video was an example of self organization. See how he mentioned minimising free energy and local minima. A snowflake or any other form of crystalisation are other every day examples. Intelligence and life are forms of self organisation and can be understood using the same principles. This for me is the killer argument why an intelligent god could not be eternal, because it would have to be subject to the laws of thermodynamics and entropy in order to capable of intelligent action. And if this was the case, then you could argue that it isn't a god but an alien.
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