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Can someone debunk this
RE: Can someone debunk this
(November 5, 2017 at 3:39 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: When we grow from an egg to a human, there are many changes at many levels in time, and none of it is random at that point or chaotic.  I am saying a few mutations cannot lead from one state to another. The paradigm is the evolution paradigm of small changes over time with random mutations and natural selection.

When we grow from an egg, there is direction at each stage according to instructions that recorded biologically.

Think of it like me giving you a recipe for a nice cake. It is a very complicated recipe and the order and timing are very important.

The recipe for me makes a very tasty cake, but when I read it out to you, you wrote some of timings down wrongly. You then use the recipe you have and get a different cake.

No mutation happens to your cake once you start making it.

The instructions (recipe) are used for the fertilised egg (cake mix) to develop over time to be a fully conscious human (cake). No one is saying that consciousness comes from mutations in reading the DNA.

(November 5, 2017 at 3:47 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Ok,  concsiousness and non-concsiouness are binary. On and off.  Either a ghost or not.

Yep. I thought this was what you assumed and which is why I explained in my first post to you that consciousness is not a binary condition.

For example, as I said your brain does not immediately switch on from unconscious to conscious after general anesthetic. Some animals and even some humans are more conscious of why they act the way they do than others.
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