Another mass shooting.....

[Brian37]

Quelle surprise I know more about your religion than you do. What's the rcc's first recourse when something goes wron? Pray fervently for whatever saint is nominated in the relevant area to intercede with god. When I was still catlick I could tell you the names of quite a fee of those saints.

Oh and to prove my point less than an hour after I posted originally RTÉ radio had a clip of the other pastor in the village saying (slight paraphrase) "we did what we could. We prayed".

Except that's not at all what Court Jesster said, and you fucking know it. What he said was "they should have prayed harder", as though we believe having prayed harder would have prevented this.

While we encourage prayer, nowhere in "catholic policy" does it say that people "should have prayed harder" when something bad happens to them. Nowehre does it say that praying hard enough guarantees that God will perform a miracle and take away a bad guy's free will to carry out whatever he was going to do, and if people are murdered, that just means they didn't pray hard enough. Nowhere does it say that, and neither is that even close to being a Catholic sentiment. And if you think otherwise, please, by all means, post where in the Catechism is says that. Show us some precious evidence.

What Jesster said was a disgusting, psychopathic thing to say in the face of christian families and children who just got murdered in a church, and you're equally disgusting for carrying it through and using it as an opportunity to attack my beliefs.

Heres a personal note to you, Tazzycon. It seems every time I say something, no matter how unrelated to my beliefs they are, you always make it a point to stick your ass in and make some kind of nasty comment to me about my faith. Even in the face of children getting murdered, you waste no time coming in here and using it to criticize a strawman of my beliefs at me, you piece of shit.

I don't know what kind of hard on you have for me and my beliefs that you make it a point to keep making comments to me about my faith every chance you get, but I'm really sick of your stupid bullshit. Serisouly dude, go fuck yourself and get a life.

CL the thread is about gun deaths. But the logic isn't there to claim a cosmic security guard is helping us at all no matter the type of death WORLDWIDE.

50 to 60 million humans WORLDWIDE die at all ages from everything you can imagine. We die stillborn, we die in childhood from cancer and other diseases, from famine and war. Adults of all ages die in accidents in the home, car. We die from suicide, war, natural disaster and disease and old age.

That is half a million in a decade, and 1 billion humans dying worldwide every 20 years.

Yes it is blunt sarcasm, but what you are not getting is we are not attacking your rights, nor do we think you are evil. The sarcasm is to demonstrate that once you postulate a cosmic protector, knowing the reality, we are merely challenging you to rethink your logic.

And please, you've been on this board for years, and you should know by now when even Atlass talks about Allah, we challenge his version too.

It makes no sense logically to us, for a alleged hero who says he can protect you, to even fail when you get hurt building and being in a monument to him. i could care less if that monument is a Church or Mosque or Synagogue. Our species history of violence proves that a holy place has no magic powers. It is a building, just like any other.

And even outside a holy place shooting, regardless of the religion you hold, the weapon, be it a firearm, car or bomb, doesn't care who is using it or who dies when it is used. Point being, if we want to reduce violence as a species, maybe we should stop depending on things we cant prove, and start depending on each other as humans. 

CL we don't hate you, I don't hate you. But the logic isn't there and that is where the sarcasm is coming from.