RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 4:55 pm
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2017 at 5:03 pm by Angrboda.)
(November 7, 2017 at 10:37 am)pool the matey Wrote:(November 7, 2017 at 10:31 am)Whateverist Wrote: You'll have to justify that "just" for us to be able to argue anything based on a difference in the meaning we attach to the words. You're devaluing "subjective", a subjective act. If you can't justify that, our disagreement resides in a failure to communicate.
My point is raping children is objectively wrong plain and simple. If it is subjectively wrong then there must be a justification for how it can be a subjectively moral act, what is that explanation? There is no explanation to justify that evil, then how can it be subjectively wrong/right act, it's a objectively evil act period
When a theist says that something is objectively true, what they in general mean to say is that in some sense it's really, really, really, really true. And typically they think that just by labeling something as objective somehow magically gives them the upper hand. But something if objectively true must have reasons that explain how objective reality gives birth to such a thing. Yet when questioned on the explanation, typically theists come up short. Theists use the word objective as a superlative, which it's not. Objective and subjective have actual meanings, and the use of these qualifiers entails shouldering a responsibility for explaining the how and the what of these things is, something other than the ubiquitous explanations with reference to magic or arbitrary definitions. Theists don't seem prepared to shoulder that burden.
(November 7, 2017 at 8:52 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Whatever suffering possible in this world, if we are patient and steadfast in midst of it, and in midst peril, out of love of the Great Ultimate Beauty that sees us exactly as we are, the love that ensues to us from that loving being, is worth it, as well as the honourable position we will have in its absolute eye which is the vision of the absolute truth.
What can be asserted without justification can be dismissed without justification.
Your masturbatory fantasy about your God answers no worthwhile questions. And it isn't even based on something you actually know about, thus the phrase "will have" -- it's nothing more than projection of your baseless fantasies. That you think a bare assertion that it's worth it "because my fantasies are real" throws the problem of evil out the window simply shows that you don't know shit from shinola.
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