RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 10:28 pm
(November 7, 2017 at 10:24 pm)Whateverist Wrote:(November 7, 2017 at 10:15 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Whenever your ready to show design of your ideal universe, go ahead, don't side track it.
None of us is arguing for a better designer. They are just pointing out the imperfections you don't acknowledge. But there was no design involved. Atheists believe 'creation' was pushed forward by the nature of the materials and their interaction, it wasn't drawn toward a goal by any invisible hand. No one is suggesting they have a perfect design, as that is irrelevant any how.
Creation is not God. If God could create or beget another God, there would no imperfection, and we all be Gods. God is not niggardly in grace, if it was possible for all to be perfect absolute beings, he would have created us all as Himself.
The very fact one imperfect being exists is enough to know it's impossible for God to beget himself.
I am saying this is the best design, you guys are showing bad results. Bad results were not the intention, the good results were, but we are responsible for the bad results.