RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 8, 2017 at 9:19 am
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2017 at 9:21 am by WinterHold.)
(November 8, 2017 at 9:05 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(November 8, 2017 at 9:00 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I am coming from Arabia; and you expect me to read the "official notes of the institution"?
The institution lies to control; this is not conspiracy stuff because whole states (like the Soviet Union) believed in this. Shame that soviets followed the institution in step by step.
What did Islam gained from the lies of the world? resources of native Arabs got sicked; lands got burned; people got killed by masses. We gained nothing from the lies of the institution.
So I'm not taking info from official sources; sorry. I will take the opinion of a third party; an external observer is always my pick. I saw enough back stabbing to stop believing in official institutions.
The Catholic clergy says what the Bible doesn't say. The Islamic clergy say what the Quran doesn't say. The American officials never take responsibility for the crimes they did in our region.
It doesn't matter where you are, and you know that. The catechism is entirely online. If you can access Wikipedia, you can access the Catechism.
Furthermore, you're claiming that Wikipedia says "Catholic clergy" said that all non christians go to hell. But it doesnt say that. I read it twice, and also asked you to copy and paste where it says that on wiki. Which you haven't done.
You're just straight up blatantly lying, atlas. Its disappointing because I thought you were above that. But I guess now I know.
(November 8, 2017 at 8:53 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: @Atlas
There is a difference between one's personal beliefs, and what their religious doctrine states. You can say, 'you aren't really following Catholicism then, if you don't believe what the doctrine and holy texts say, and that's a separate discussion. But you don't get to tell someone what they do or don't personally believe.
LOC, I do believe what my religious doctrines state. Atlas is making stuff up about what Catholicism teaches.
In post number #277 from this topic (which can be accessed from the link below) I wrote:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-52012-p...pid1653165
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Quote:[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_hell#Roman_Catholicism]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_...atholicism
Quote: Wrote:Nature of hell
The Catechism of the Catholic Church which, when published in 1992, Pope John Paul II declared to be "a sure norm for teaching the faith",[43] defines hell as eternal fiery punishment for refusing to love God:
The Catechism of the Catholic Church, in 1992, declared that it is sure a norm in Catholic faith, that hell is a fiery punishment for refusing to love God.
Sorry but if this doesn't prove what I say about Catholic believes; what can prove?
(November 8, 2017 at 9:05 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(November 8, 2017 at 8:53 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: @Atlas
There is a difference between one's personal beliefs, and what their religious doctrine states. You can say, 'you aren't really following Catholicism then, if you don't believe what the doctrine and holy texts say, and that's a separate discussion. But you don't get to tell someone what they do or don't personally believe.
LOC, I do believe what my religious doctrines state. Atlas is making stuff up about what Catholicism teaches.
I'm not making anything up.
You're the one making things up and practicing missionary actions. Bash me; go on. I'm bullet proof. Banning me is also a good choice