RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 8, 2017 at 3:46 pm
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2017 at 4:04 pm by Aroura.)
(November 8, 2017 at 10:30 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(November 8, 2017 at 8:51 am)Aroura Wrote: You totally didn't answer my question. I'll ask one more time.
Main question: How is it fair that some people, like children, don't have to take the test to get eternal life, while others do?
Also, does god not test everyone? Why or Why not? Also, does god tell you all of this personally, or are you just giving us your best guesses? Be honest.
(I'm assuming you think children have souls and join god when they die, not that they are just props to give YOUR life more meaning, which is kinda what your answer sounds like).
Please try and address my questions, instead of wondering off topic. Thanks.
I didn't see this comment. I went back and searched for it.
The children might not be resurrected. If we said they don't have complete minds, then it's totally legit to say that they are not legitimate judging subjects. I believe that they are a reminder for us all, of how things could've been if we were to suffer like them.
I think it's an interesting question, and I didn't think in depth about it before. But if I guessed, then the people are a property of God; that's why he refers to us with "slaves" in the Quran. As his slaves; we are his property, so he can create some to act as decorations; a reminder for the rest. That makes the test get glued and manifests.
God is a scary being. When I think about a God that created everything, and perfect in everything, I tend to think he is also perfect in shock and awe. He is that scary. He is the example of perfect mercy and beauty too.
He is everything.
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I have a child. You referring to children as if they are incomplete people might literally be the creepiest thing I've ever heard a religious person (not on the news) say.
I don't even have a response beyond just telling you that, ew, creepy.
I'm sure other religious folk on here will probably also agree with me that children are people, not slave decorations. Just, ew, dude.
On the other hand, I really do appreciate your honestly. So I'm just being honest in return. I feel quite a lot of pity for you, knowing this is how you view things, including your fear of your God.
Peace.
(edited to add that I really do appreciate not only your personal honesty, but your intelectual honesty. Every Christian I've encountered on this forum does mental backflips to avoid touching the negative implications of their beliefs. I know you are not a Christian, maybe Muslims are more apt to accept his stuff? Not sure. But anyway, you, you just go right for logical conclusions, and damn the negative implications. If it's God, it isn't really negative. Seriously, I'm not being facetious here. My hat off to you for the courage to just, go there.)
(November 8, 2017 at 12:47 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:Sorry MK, doesn't ring a bell. Send me a PM with a link, if you like.(November 8, 2017 at 10:13 am)Aroura Wrote: Still waiting.....
Aroura, do you remember my greater design perspective response to evil while a Deist. I made a thread particularly to address the issue of children dying and suffering.
If you are interested, I can open a thread regarding that.
However, I don't think there is a conflict to a Deistic God. The problem of evil is only a problem to the supposed omni-benevolent god. So your point old thread may be sort of moot, imo, but I'm still willing to read it with an open mind, if you like.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?”
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead