(November 9, 2017 at 4:02 am)Little Rik Wrote: You don't get it Face.
If you would have read my post carefully you would have understood that I am not argue whether in the Bible is written or not your quotation-citation.
I instead point out to you that what is written in the Bible is not necessary what God said or even if that is what God said the interpretation of such a citation is taken in the wrong way most of the time.
Pretty sure OP is referring to specifically Yahwe. Not a general "god". So specifically what it says in the Christian bible. That the interpretation varies so much for most Christians is the issue. I don't care what a minority of "true believers" say. I care about where the radicalized folk are getting their ideologies.
Quote:Wrong again Face.
Suppose you have some grown up kids.
You gave them life so to speak and as a father you hope that they will follow your teaching but you can not stop them if they do bad things once they are grown up.
You did your very best, unfortunately they refuse to follow your teachings.
Is that your fault?
Why should be your fault?
That is why we can not blame God for the evils that go on all the time.
Surely the free will is open to options.
This is also part and parcel of the creation.
Evolution of the consciousness and the opposite that I call DEvolution are part and parcel of this universal game.
God doesn't like to see people doing bad things but at the end everything is sorted out through the karma law and people after banging the head so many times on the wall they finally will learn and develop enough consciousness to reach the goal of life.
The father analogy doesn't work because Yahwe is supposed to be omnipotent and omniscient. Fathers don't have those powers. It is His fault because He knew everything that was going to happen and allowed it despite having the power to stop it and do it a better way. He can stop it. We don't have to have total free will to have some free will. God can intervene and still allow us free will. We can't have free will with an omniscient god. Even under xtian doctrine, we don't have total free will. I can't fly or simply decide to enjoy things I don't.
Quote:No questions that a lot of theists do that.
I am not one of them however.
Evolution is one way up for matter, plants and animals but is two ways up or down for human beings.
Too many people are not aware of this important factor.
Wut?
Quote:My belief is that the guy that killed all those people in Texas will be reincarnated again and again to be killed
as many times as he killed and be wounded as many times as he wounded.
This is the karma law at work so the balance will be restored.
Wut wut?