(November 10, 2017 at 10:24 am)alpha male Wrote: do you think all atheists come to their moral positions independently, or do you think many of them go to other atheist sources for input?
I don't think many of them go to atheist sources for the moral positions. Unlike what theists would love for everyone to believe, atheism isn't a religion.
(November 10, 2017 at 10:24 am)alpha male Wrote:Quote:Generally yes.
Yes to which - they switch to the left (if that's what you mean do you have evidence), or they stay right but with a change in that particular position?
Sorry, I meant to say generally yes to 'they stay mostly right, but with a more nuanced position'
(November 10, 2017 at 10:24 am)alpha male Wrote:Quote:Yes but not because organised religion pushed for acceptance of homosexuality but because others did. New churches, like any good business, are created to satisfy a niche in the market place.
Regardless of your speculation as to motive, you acknowledge that such theists are mature enough to analyze the world and change their positions, which goes againt your OP.
But it was not because of the infantilising influence of religious indoctrination that they acknowledged that homosexuality was not evil but because they were forced to confront the issue and their prejudices by other segments of society. Progress would have been a lot quicker without organised religion.