(November 10, 2017 at 4:10 pm)Aroura Wrote:(November 10, 2017 at 3:15 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: So you are saying it is bullshit when atheists try to use this excuse to get out of having to explain their claims?
And I'm not talking about atheism as a description.
If someone says "atheists don't have beliefs", yah, they mean the atheism part of an atheist, not the whole person. There is literally no one in the entire world who would say any adult person doesn't make claims or have beliefs. Everyone does. You are intentionally misunderstanding the meaning, are clearly talking about this one aspect. I would call it poorly worded, not bullshit. And I would call you disingenuous for going after semantics over the obvious implied meaning.
Perhaps I wasn't precise enough, but yes, I was talking about beliefs and claims in regards to God or gods. I'm was not saying that they do not believe in nothing at all.
I find that many make statements that betray a position of a mere lack of belief, and they try to slither out of it.
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If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther