RE: Dr. Craig contradiction.
November 10, 2017 at 4:37 pm
(This post was last modified: November 10, 2017 at 4:42 pm by RoadRunner79.)
(November 10, 2017 at 4:26 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(November 10, 2017 at 4:22 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: And you still do not understand falsfiability in this sense. Whether Craig is 100% confident and you are less than 100% or 0% confident, does not effect if it is falsifiable. It is not a subjective thing that changes from person to person. Either there is a the potential to be shown false, or there is not.Craig has been falsified 100% of the time.
You cannot both say that there is reason to believe it is false, and that it is unfalsifiable. This unlike the OP would be a contradiction.
Also, perhaps I steered in the wrong direction, talking about Poppers and the demarcation issue. But scientific test is not the only reason to believe something, and the only way to falsify it. But I seem to recall hammy and others recently complaining that saying so was a strawman though... so I must be misunderstanding.
Why you would defend such abject horror is beyond reckoning.
I think that this is clearly an emotional issue for you.
(November 10, 2017 at 4:29 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(November 10, 2017 at 4:22 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: And you still do not understand falsfiability in this sense. Whether Craig is 100% confident and you are less than 100% or 0% confident, does not effect if it is falsifiable. It is not a subjective thing that changes from person to person. Either there is a the potential to be shown false, or there is not.
You cannot both say that there is reason to believe it is false, and that it is unfalsifiable. This unlike the OP would be a contradiction.
Also, perhaps I steered in the wrong direction, talking about Poppers and the demarcation issue. But scientific test is not the only reason to believe something, and the only way to falsify it. But I seem to recall hammy and others recently complaining that saying so was a strawman though... so I must be misunderstanding.
I understand falsifiability in terms of the definition that I provided you from the text from by Drs. Laura Kay, Stacy Palen, Bradford Smith and George Blumenthal, which, as far as I can tell, is universal within modern science. If you or WLC is 100% sure of god's existence, then, no, you are contradicting yourselves if you claim that the existence of god could be falsified, that is, disproven.
In short, atheism is falsifiable, theism (or, deism) is not.
Ok... Now I question if you know what a contradiction is. But it seems I would just be repeating myself at this point, so I'll leave you to it.
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If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther