RE: Theism is literally childish
November 11, 2017 at 9:24 pm
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2017 at 9:26 pm by John V.)
(November 11, 2017 at 1:49 pm)Mathilda Wrote: The lack of presents could easily be explained away.
No, they couldn't. It's the one thing he does.
(November 11, 2017 at 1:34 pm)alpha male Wrote: I didn't know that and would be interested to see where it says that.
Romans 8 & 9, Galatians 4, Ephesians 1.
(November 11, 2017 at 1:34 pm)alpha male Wrote: It is a typical theist trick to try and limit how the other person can reply. In this case by assuming that life has to spontaneously arise and only from inanimate matter.
How else does it arise from an atheist viewpoint??
(November 11, 2017 at 2:28 pm)emjay Wrote: Chemicals react, that's one thing they do, they also bond and form more complex structures (molecules etc), so it's not that much of a leap to think that given those two things, with enough time and the right conditions, self-supporting structures could be formed... in other words, little steps, which eventually amount to something much bigger. I'm no expert on all that but that's enough for me; it's perfectly plausible to me based on how systems evolve in other respects. It's certainly more plausible to me than the earth only being six thousand years old despite all the geological evidence that suggest that can't be the case. But if I'm wrong, so what? ...if it's proven to be impossible, then I'll just wait for the next theory to be put forward, which will again likely be more plausible than a six thousand year old earth and a magical being creating life, despite all the evidence of evolution. And more to the point, the truth, or not, of that, has no bearing on the existence of God or which specific God out of the many that are posited, it would be if there was; so there's no way I could use that theory being falsified to promote a belief in God, even if I wanted to, because one does not speak to the other.
Special pleading. You find inanimate matter coming to life plausible, so that's not delusion. You find a creator god less plausible, so that's delusion.