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Theism is literally childish
RE: Theism is literally childish
(November 13, 2017 at 2:39 pm)SteveII Wrote:
(November 9, 2017 at 8:43 am)Mathilda Wrote: Religious belief conditions people to literally think and act like children.

I wasn't going to comment on such nonsense, but it seems people think a good point is being made here and some sort of sound reasoning was employed.

Quote:As a child your parents look after your needs, explain how the world works, make decisions about your future and take responsibility for those decisions.

Growing up and maturing isn't just a physical development, but a mental one as well. The child learns to ask questions, not to believe everything they are told, to make their own decisions and moral judgments and to take responsibility for their actions. They slowly become more independent by being safely exposed to a world of danger until they can look after themselves.

Religious conditioning from birth essentially stops the maturation process. [1] Children are taught that the consequence to their actions are irrelevant because only a non-existent god ca truly judge them [1.1]. They are not taught to think through the morality of their actions but to accept the morality without question that some person wearing a pointy hat gives them.  They are conditioned to obey authority and to have faith rather than to ask why. [1.2] This means that they do not have to accept the responsibility of their actions because they were only following orders, which ultimately came from their god and are not to be questioned. [1.3] The child grows up dependent upon a system that tells them how to act, think, believe and what to value or hate. [1.4] Their life is not their own but is instead owned by a church that can control them like some bot in a network to be deployed to exercise power. [1.5] 

1. Ah...your conclusion which you will attempt to support with premises.
1.1 - This sentence makes no sense. The second half does not follow from the first. God's judgement would be a significant consequence and very relevant. However, you made up what children are taught to make your point (classic definition of a strawman argument). See 1.2
1.2 - Who teaches their 2 year old to share or not not to hit because the Bible says so? Who teaches an 8 year old not to cheat on their test because the Church says so? Who teaches a 13 year old not to drink and do drugs because Jesus says so? Your assertion has no basis in reality because 99% of childhood moral guidelines are exactly the same as a non-religious family. Do you imagine that religious parent somehow become incapable to teaching morality without answering "because the 10 commandments forbid it and we don't ask questions"? You are erecting a strawman.
1.3 - Here is where your reasoning goes off the rails. Where in the Bible does it even suggest that we are not responsible for our actions? In fact, personal responsibility is on nearly every page of the Bible. You conclude that following a written moral code leads to not being personally responsible. Your support for this seems to be that morality must be reasoned to rather than be instructed on. That is false and is not how morality is taught to children. 
1.4 - You have simply described every experience of every child ever. 
1.5 - Again, you make things up to support your silly conclusion. Show us where the Bible teaches anything other than personal responsibility. 

Not only does your conclusion NOT follow from the premises, your premises are ALL wrong!!

Quote:Not all theists are conditioned from birth. These are the ones to be pitied because they were not properly raised to begin with. The converts though do not deserve pity so much as contempt because they have essentially outsourced their morality. [2.1] They realise how difficult it is to make moral judgments because life is never black and white but always grey. So they're essentially letting someone else make those moral judgments for them instead. [2.2] Instead of taking responsibility for their actions, instead of suffering the doubt that is necessary to navigate a noisy and uncertain world, they're preferring to feel good about their own lives regardless of what it costs everyone else. [2.3] They are being self-centered. Their own sense of self-ease has a greater priority to them than the effect that they have on the world around them. These are the types who would happily allow their government to sign away their freedom to dispel any kind of evil that they have been warned about. Over time these converts happily become more child-like as they accept the conditioning of their church to not question but to just have faith that it will all turn out well in the end. [2.4]

2.1 - Quite condescending. Shows your character. 
2.2 - HOW could you possibly know what attracted them to say Christianity?!? I have never ever heard anyone's personal testimony say "I couldn't figure out what was right and wrong on my own, so...God". I'm not sure that would even make it on a list of top 100 reasons. Where do you get this nonsense?!?
2.3 - Again with the false belief that religion teaches the opposite of personal responsibility. 
2.4 - Not even a "some people..." in front of your idiotic rambling that does not follow EVEN from your untrue premises. 

Quote:Children play. They fantasise about all kinds of imaginative scenarios because they are not weighed down by plausibility, The hall mark of a child is when they don't think through how heir fantasies would work in practice. Yet this is what the religiously indoctrinated do all the time. Instead of wizard performing magic, or a superhero with unexplainable powers, it's a god performing holy-magic. None of it can be explained, and none of it is meant to be. And these fantasies give people the illusion of control over their lives and their reality. Prayer does not work. There is no way that it could work. Yet it is more fun and nicer to imagine that you are imbued with powerful magic and can influence the world around you than to realise that you cannot. Or that to do so actually takes effort or comes at great cost.

The problem is, how can you tell people to grow up when they literally want to continue holding onto a child-like innocence where everyone else makes the decisions for them?

Having utterly failed to link religious belief with childish thinking or maturity, you end with a series of assertions that center around one main assertion: God does not exist. Now, it is traditional for atheists here to hide behind the "I simply lack belief" nonsense. You, however are not. You are making a clear claim that God does not exists. Please support your assertion with proof.

I thought about addressing each one of her straws, but didnt have the motivation to sit here and do it, especially since it seems sp many people already have their minds made up that she's right about us.

Nonetheless, I'm really glad you stepped up to the plate. These responses are amazing. Well said!
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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Theism is literally childish - by I_am_not_mafia - November 9, 2017 at 8:43 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by possibletarian - November 9, 2017 at 9:17 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Valkyrie - November 9, 2017 at 4:30 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by possibletarian - November 9, 2017 at 8:00 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 9, 2017 at 10:31 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - November 9, 2017 at 10:56 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 9, 2017 at 12:55 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by LadyForCamus - November 9, 2017 at 12:59 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Nay_Sayer - November 9, 2017 at 8:15 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by emjay - November 10, 2017 at 11:20 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 10, 2017 at 11:40 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Abaddon_ire - November 10, 2017 at 11:47 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by emjay - November 10, 2017 at 11:57 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 10, 2017 at 12:09 pm
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RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 10, 2017 at 12:22 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by emjay - November 10, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 10, 2017 at 1:19 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by emjay - November 10, 2017 at 1:54 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Abaddon_ire - November 10, 2017 at 4:23 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 10, 2017 at 4:26 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Abaddon_ire - November 10, 2017 at 4:28 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 10, 2017 at 4:30 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by I_am_not_mafia - November 11, 2017 at 6:13 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 9, 2017 at 1:04 pm
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RE: Theism is literally childish - by Whateverist - November 9, 2017 at 4:41 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by I_am_not_mafia - November 10, 2017 at 7:09 am
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RE: Theism is literally childish - by Neo-Scholastic - November 9, 2017 at 1:34 pm
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RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 10, 2017 at 9:08 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 10, 2017 at 9:23 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by I_am_not_mafia - November 10, 2017 at 9:58 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 13, 2017 at 3:53 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by KevinM1 - November 10, 2017 at 11:07 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 10, 2017 at 11:36 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Neo-Scholastic - November 10, 2017 at 2:13 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by KevinM1 - November 10, 2017 at 10:29 pm
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RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 10, 2017 at 5:17 pm
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RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 13, 2017 at 2:23 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - November 9, 2017 at 3:15 pm
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RE: Theism is literally childish - by Cod - November 9, 2017 at 6:30 pm
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RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 9, 2017 at 10:58 pm
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RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 10, 2017 at 7:41 am
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RE: Theism is literally childish - by LastPoet - November 10, 2017 at 1:26 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 9, 2017 at 2:29 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by SteveII - November 9, 2017 at 3:06 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 9, 2017 at 3:22 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Neo-Scholastic - November 9, 2017 at 3:43 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 9, 2017 at 3:54 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by SteveII - November 9, 2017 at 4:00 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 9, 2017 at 4:11 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Nay_Sayer - November 9, 2017 at 8:20 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by I_am_not_mafia - November 10, 2017 at 8:17 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 10, 2017 at 8:37 am
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RE: Theism is literally childish - by MysticKnight - November 13, 2017 at 12:49 pm
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RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2017 at 1:23 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 13, 2017 at 1:39 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2017 at 1:42 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by possibletarian - November 13, 2017 at 1:40 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Neo-Scholastic - November 13, 2017 at 1:53 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 13, 2017 at 1:08 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by I_am_not_mafia - November 13, 2017 at 1:26 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2017 at 1:28 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 13, 2017 at 1:43 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 13, 2017 at 1:46 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Shell B - November 13, 2017 at 2:18 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by MysticKnight - November 13, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Shell B - November 13, 2017 at 2:35 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 13, 2017 at 2:42 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Shell B - November 13, 2017 at 3:31 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 13, 2017 at 3:39 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 13, 2017 at 3:49 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Shell B - November 13, 2017 at 9:35 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by SteveII - November 13, 2017 at 2:39 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2017 at 3:37 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by I_am_not_mafia - November 14, 2017 at 8:05 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 14, 2017 at 10:13 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 14, 2017 at 10:16 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by I_am_not_mafia - November 14, 2017 at 10:26 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 14, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 14, 2017 at 10:55 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by I_am_not_mafia - November 14, 2017 at 11:01 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 14, 2017 at 11:22 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 14, 2017 at 11:42 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by I_am_not_mafia - November 14, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 14, 2017 at 12:24 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 15, 2017 at 8:43 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 15, 2017 at 9:26 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 15, 2017 at 9:47 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Succubus - November 15, 2017 at 4:02 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Whateverist - November 15, 2017 at 11:53 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Neo-Scholastic - November 15, 2017 at 11:58 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 15, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Neo-Scholastic - November 15, 2017 at 12:19 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Abaddon_ire - November 15, 2017 at 10:05 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Simon Moon - November 15, 2017 at 10:16 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by SteveII - November 16, 2017 at 11:23 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Harry Nevis - November 16, 2017 at 1:45 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Edwardo Piet - November 16, 2017 at 3:24 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 16, 2017 at 9:14 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Succubus - November 16, 2017 at 11:54 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by SteveII - November 14, 2017 at 12:28 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by I_am_not_mafia - November 14, 2017 at 1:09 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 14, 2017 at 1:11 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Neo-Scholastic - November 13, 2017 at 3:25 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Harry Nevis - November 13, 2017 at 3:32 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by LadyForCamus - November 13, 2017 at 4:04 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by MysticKnight - November 13, 2017 at 4:11 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by LadyForCamus - November 13, 2017 at 4:30 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Shell B - November 13, 2017 at 3:42 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 13, 2017 at 3:48 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by MysticKnight - November 13, 2017 at 4:02 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 13, 2017 at 5:44 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by MysticKnight - November 13, 2017 at 6:11 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by possibletarian - November 13, 2017 at 4:17 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Neo-Scholastic - November 13, 2017 at 4:41 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by possibletarian - November 13, 2017 at 4:45 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by MysticKnight - November 13, 2017 at 4:48 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 13, 2017 at 5:09 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by RoadRunner79 - November 13, 2017 at 4:51 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by possibletarian - November 13, 2017 at 4:59 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by RoadRunner79 - November 13, 2017 at 5:12 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by possibletarian - November 13, 2017 at 5:23 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by RoadRunner79 - November 14, 2017 at 8:29 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by MysticKnight - November 13, 2017 at 5:12 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 13, 2017 at 5:50 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 13, 2017 at 7:11 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Shell B - November 14, 2017 at 12:05 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by KevinM1 - November 14, 2017 at 3:54 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 14, 2017 at 9:48 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 14, 2017 at 9:51 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by KevinM1 - November 14, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Whateverist - November 14, 2017 at 6:52 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Amarok - November 14, 2017 at 1:48 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Amarok - November 14, 2017 at 2:52 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Amarok - November 14, 2017 at 6:06 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2017 at 8:14 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by I_am_not_mafia - November 14, 2017 at 8:32 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2017 at 8:55 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 14, 2017 at 10:24 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2017 at 12:28 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Amarok - November 14, 2017 at 8:09 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 15, 2017 at 8:30 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Amarok - November 15, 2017 at 1:43 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by RoadRunner79 - November 15, 2017 at 7:05 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Cod - November 15, 2017 at 8:51 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2017 at 9:57 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Whateverist - November 15, 2017 at 12:10 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Whateverist - November 15, 2017 at 12:54 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by MysticKnight - November 15, 2017 at 1:42 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 16, 2017 at 9:15 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Whateverist - November 15, 2017 at 1:50 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2017 at 1:54 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by MysticKnight - November 15, 2017 at 2:07 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by LastPoet - November 15, 2017 at 4:15 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2017 at 2:21 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Amarok - November 15, 2017 at 5:00 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Amarok - November 15, 2017 at 6:18 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by I_am_not_mafia - November 16, 2017 at 7:30 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 16, 2017 at 7:48 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 16, 2017 at 10:18 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by John V - November 16, 2017 at 9:18 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 16, 2017 at 9:42 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Succubus - November 16, 2017 at 11:45 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 16, 2017 at 11:56 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by brewer - November 16, 2017 at 10:20 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Neo-Scholastic - November 16, 2017 at 10:23 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by brewer - November 16, 2017 at 10:37 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Abaddon_ire - November 16, 2017 at 11:07 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Neo-Scholastic - November 16, 2017 at 11:36 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Abaddon_ire - November 16, 2017 at 12:18 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Neo-Scholastic - November 16, 2017 at 10:21 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Catholic_Lady - November 16, 2017 at 11:19 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Edwardo Piet - November 16, 2017 at 7:46 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2017 at 9:23 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2017 at 10:22 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 16, 2017 at 10:29 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2017 at 10:26 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Neo-Scholastic - November 16, 2017 at 10:29 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2017 at 10:38 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Amarok - November 16, 2017 at 10:43 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by brewer - November 16, 2017 at 2:22 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Amarok - November 16, 2017 at 6:28 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2017 at 11:31 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 16, 2017 at 12:02 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2017 at 11:46 am
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Neo-Scholastic - November 16, 2017 at 12:15 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2017 at 12:06 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Brian37 - November 16, 2017 at 12:49 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2017 at 12:22 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by Neo-Scholastic - November 16, 2017 at 1:27 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2017 at 1:00 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2017 at 1:54 pm
RE: Theism is literally childish - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2017 at 2:34 pm

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