Theism is literally childish

[Brian37]

Right. So what exactly lives on after we die? Our consciousness?  Our identities and memories? Everything that makes us who we are as a person minus a corporeal body? If so then when you say:




... what you actually mean is that only your god can pass judgment based on who we are and send us to Hell.

And what criteria does he use to pass judgment? Our looks? Our wealth? Whether we chose the correct religion out of the many thousands that have ever existed? Or our moral decisions?

Regardless. When faced with the consequences of such judgment then anything that gets done on Earth is pretty small scale to the point of being irrelevant when compared to an eternity of happiness or agony.

Judgement I am allowed to make: Mathilda is clearly prejudice against people of faith. This prejudice is causing her to act obtuse on purpose, so that she can keep on thinking the worst of us despite all of us telling her that her assertions about us are false. The consequence is that I have lost respect for her, and I will start a thread asking the staff to explain exactly why this provocative thread of hers doesn't break the rules against wild generalizations on entire groups of people.   

Judgement I am not allowed to make: Mathilda is going to Hell. 

See the difference?  

Now I'll say it again:

YOU made the claim that theists (that includes me) were "taught that consequences of their actions  are irrelevant because only God can judge." I am sitting here, as a flesh and bone, real life theist, telling you that I was NOT taught what you are claiming I was taught. And I am explaining to you that me believing that God will decide who goes to Hell, does not in any way shape or form make me believe consequences of this life are irrelevant, or that we can't judge people in other ways besides the state of their souls.   

...And you are still sitting here arguing with me. 

Person A: you believe this and you were taught this
Person B: Um actually no, no I wasn't. And no, I don't. 
Person A: Yes you do!

CL you do know better than this, you have been here long enough to know what we object to is your logic, nothing more.

Skeptics, "You were sold the idea that a God exists"

Is not the same as, "We hate you personally"

But no, sorry, how you want the word "judgment" to be viewed, does not change the claims of antiquity. BACK THEN "judgment" was a trope in polytheism and monotheism. BACK THEN the gods or a god were the string pullers and humans tried to guess as to what their god/s wanted and feared judgment if they didn't do things right.

Now that concept of "judgment" reflects antiquity. BACK THEN life in both polytheism and monotheism depended far more on towing the line of the local tribal leaders. The ruling families were the judges so religion reflected the false notion of success being divine entitlement.

You are trying to change history. We are not arguing what you want it to be now, we are  telling you how people thought back then. "Judgment" in antiquity was something divine and humans would point to volcanos as having a god us it to punish them. Other societies like the Mayans would use human sacrifice to prevent their god/s from punishing them. Pele the Hawaiian fire Goddess was thought of as deity to be appeased or face her wrath too.

Yes we can judge the here and now and we do so? That still is not evidence for a Christian heaven or a Muslim heaven or a Jewish heaven. It is also not evidence for a Christian hell or Muslim hell. The Ancient Egyptians long before those three had their concepts of judgment in the afterlife. The religions of Abraham did were not the first to make those claims.

You were taught the idea of a soul, and you were taught that after you die you go to heaven or hell. i spent many Sundays in a Catholic Church growing up myself so don't claim to me that isn't what you were taught.