RE: Theism is literally childish
November 16, 2017 at 7:30 am
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2017 at 7:31 am by I_am_not_mafia.)
It's not fair debating a tag-team of theists because each one sincerely believes a different fairy tale. So they can choose a belief system to best answer a question. Whereas atheists are constrained to argue about what happens in reality.
So CL challenges me on saying that christianity teaches that only their god can judge and says that what this actually means is all their god can do is decide whether your soul (i.e. everything about you that makes you you) goes to heaven or hell. Then Alpha male challenges my assertion that being judged by their god on whether you end up in Heaven or Hell trivialises real-world decisions by saying that those decisions are also judged by their god to see what kind of perks we get in the afterlife.
This is the difficulty of arguing with a bunch of people who are just making up shit. Because if they weren't, they'd be consistent right? And that is actually Alpha Male's argument as well. He dismisses all scientific hypotheses, no matter how similar if they do not 100% agree and uses that opportunity to insert his own god-magic explanation. Yet being part of a tag-team of theists they can collectively switch to whichever interpretation of that best answers the question. So using Alpha Male's standards of debate I should be able to dismiss all theist arguments because none of them agree,
I am beginning to think that although religious indoctrination does seek to infantilise, sincere theist belief isn't so much childish as more akin to a mental illness. it's like trying to argue with a paranoid schizophrenic that everyone isn't out to kill them. Whatever you say, their brain will use it for confirmation bias.
I think I will explore these themes by starting new threads.
So CL challenges me on saying that christianity teaches that only their god can judge and says that what this actually means is all their god can do is decide whether your soul (i.e. everything about you that makes you you) goes to heaven or hell. Then Alpha male challenges my assertion that being judged by their god on whether you end up in Heaven or Hell trivialises real-world decisions by saying that those decisions are also judged by their god to see what kind of perks we get in the afterlife.
This is the difficulty of arguing with a bunch of people who are just making up shit. Because if they weren't, they'd be consistent right? And that is actually Alpha Male's argument as well. He dismisses all scientific hypotheses, no matter how similar if they do not 100% agree and uses that opportunity to insert his own god-magic explanation. Yet being part of a tag-team of theists they can collectively switch to whichever interpretation of that best answers the question. So using Alpha Male's standards of debate I should be able to dismiss all theist arguments because none of them agree,
I am beginning to think that although religious indoctrination does seek to infantilise, sincere theist belief isn't so much childish as more akin to a mental illness. it's like trying to argue with a paranoid schizophrenic that everyone isn't out to kill them. Whatever you say, their brain will use it for confirmation bias.
I think I will explore these themes by starting new threads.