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GOD RAPED MARY
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
(November 18, 2017 at 8:21 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 1.  But Mary's parents do not appear in the story.

2.  I'm not trying to 'excuse a god' at all.  This is simply an analysis of the text, and cultural context is important as regards the story.  If Mary was a preteen, that was the norm in 1st century Palestine - you simply cannot judge the mores and behaviour of the people in the story based on the mores and behaviour of people today.

3.  I agree that a modern judge would have locked up the father in your example, but so what?  A Sanhedrin would not have done so, and that's all that matters.

Please don't think I'm trying to excuse the Bible in any shape or form - I'm not.  But the story in Luke simply doesn't describe any kind of a 'rape'.

Boru

1. That is a problem in my view, because I'd like to know who were the a**holes who thought marrying off a 12 year old child to a 90 year old man was a good idea.

2. No I am not saying you are trying to excuse, and in fact it might work if it's seen just as a story from a different time period. But the problem arises for those who claim god is timeless and is the source of objective morality. If the creator's wisdom and morality varies with time and culture, how the heck is it objective?

3. No it matters, because it shows that what he did, even though might not seem wrong for people in that time period, but is wrong in a civilized society, and that "He" lacks the wisdom and/or foresight to know it.
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GOD RAPED MARY - by Bow Before Zeus - November 17, 2017 at 8:16 pm
RE: GOD RAPED MARY - by SteveII - November 17, 2017 at 8:35 pm
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