RE: Nuclear Launch Order May Be Disobeyed
November 19, 2017 at 11:32 am
(This post was last modified: November 19, 2017 at 12:05 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(November 19, 2017 at 1:24 am)AFTT47 Wrote: I think most of you have probably heard of this.
As much as I despise the circus clown who currently occupies the oval office, this kind of talk disturbs me. The whole point of the President having the sole authority to let the nuclear missiles fly is that you can't afford to get into a partisan debate when the shit hits the fan. Action needs to be taken NOW! You can't be in a horizontal position with your pants down when the enemy is raining down nuclear destruction on you. You MUST respond. The enemy must know that you WILL respond. That knowledge keeps them from starting shit in the first place.
If I was one of the U.S. Air Force officers sitting in the bunkers with my hands on the buttons which would launch the missiles, I would definitely prefer that my ultimate commander would be someone other than a jackass I have no respect for. Even in that case though, I would have to follow orders unless those orders were very clearly unethical. It has to be that way. You MUST be willing to destroy the enemy and they must be confident that you will. That is how you deter them in the first place.
Ironically, this is an argument for hawks to never vote for a clown like Trump. He is a danger to national security because he has so little confidence in those he commands. Even if he gives the order, the utter lack of respect and lack of confidence in him will probably result in mass disobedience of his orders.
Regardless of political ideology, a President MUST command a certain level of respect in order to be an effective leader. Trump only commands respect from FUCKING IDIOTS.
Far from being a strongman who his idiot supporters hope him to be, Trump is a weak man who invites attack on us. Our enemies know he is jackass. They will manipulate him accordingly.
Your concern does not disturb me at all for 2 reasons:
1. The former Soviet combined strategic and tactical power that could conceivably demolish most of the American nuclear arsenal with a preemptive strike such that waiting for that strike to land can reduce the power of American retaliation to a level acceptable to the Soviets is no more. There is no force on earth today that even come close to having the ability to preempt any American second strike or seriously diminish the power of the second strike. So in no case does america have any true need to assure confidence in its capability to rapidly react by launching on warning. America will assuredly retain the capacity to aanihilate the attacker with a second strike from its SSBN force even if it waits for any conceivable first strike from any enemy’s to land first. So Reacting rapidly to lunch before the first strike lands will not prevent the first strike from,landing and will make zero difference to the outcome.
2. In practice the general’s grandstanding statement means nothing. What exactly is an illegal order?
Launch nuclear weapons against a blue state that voted against trump?
If trump say launch against North Korea after Kim called the US the land of sodomized orange monkey that will be wiped off the earth, is that legal or not?
I have perfect confidence if trump orders a unprovoked nuclear strike against a foreign state without the ability to nuke us back in retaliation, the military will uphold legality by defining illegality so narrowly that no careers need to be risked for the mere lives of foreigners who had it coming anyway.
On the other hand If any president ordered a unprovoked nuclear strike on Russia or China I think the military would have shot that president between the eyes anyway because the extended families of the officer Corp might be incinerated in the aftermath.