(November 21, 2017 at 1:20 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(November 21, 2017 at 1:07 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Well, no one is really 100% guilty of anything if you want to go really deep in thinking about these matters. But I'm fine with letting the law decide what makes one guilty or not, as long as the legal punishment is fair and the purpose of the punishment is to protect society from people that pose a danger to them and not about retribution. And honestly, mental institutions and "civilized" prisons are not really that different from what I have read and heard.
Is deemed wrong. But if they don't really see that it's wrong, then they will have no qualms murdering someone when they believe (erroneously or not) they can get away with it and not get caught.
Ok? If it's illegal, they ought to "have qualms about it." Unless of course, they don't have qualms about going to prison for life, which is exactly what should happen to people like Manson. Whether or not they think they'll get caught is irrelevant.
Remember, this was your response I originally responded to:
Quote:Psychopathy and narcissistic peraonality disorder would be my guess. But nothing severe enough that he couldn't understand that what he was doing was wrong and be deemed innocent.
Do you concede now that understanding that something is wrong and being made aware by society that something is deemed wrong are not the same thing? In the latter case, you're told by others something is wrong, but you may or may not get what's so bad about it. In such case, I do think there is a major deficiency then in moral reasoning.
