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(LONG) "I Don't Know" as a Good Answer in Ethics
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RE: (LONG) "I Don't Know" as a Good Answer in Ethics
(November 21, 2017 at 9:30 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: My refutation was that science cannot supply value. You reject it.

OFC I do, because it can.  More accurately, you counter (for sake of discussion) that this -kind- of value may not be the kind of value that science can supply, and that this leads to nihilism.  It doesn't..even if it were true.  I was recently af-bumped by a fellow poster quoting a line I semi-stole from him......the notion that if a specific -kind- of value cannot be supplied than no value can be supplied.  This is patently untrue.  If a person insists upon begging this, then.... if I don't wish to argue, I can concede...and still say "meh, perhaps not the value you demand but value nevertheless".   In the case of hedonism, science can indeed,present the value of "happiness", and intrinsically so.... but if this does not satisfy you -as- value then hedonism does not satisfy you. By any competent use or understanding of both the chemicals involved or the proposition surrounding..that value is demonstrable and intrinsic.

Unsurprising, it doesn't satisfy me either. I consider it incomplete. I mention this so that it doesn;t become an isue of you thinking that I think you're wrong ( a pointless argument between us "I don't know" types, I'm guessing). I actually agree with you, just not for the same reasons.

(I thought you had a refutation of Moore in mind)
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RE: (LONG) "I Don't Know" as a Good Answer in Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2017 at 10:00 pm

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