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Eternal afterlife
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RE: Eternal afterlife
(November 21, 2017 at 10:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(November 21, 2017 at 8:38 pm)Haipule Wrote: Technically, the idea of "eternal" is nonsensical. Biblically, it is the Greek adjective aiOnios and should have been translated: breath-being-belonging-to-him/her/it. Such as zOEn aiOnion in John 3:16, translated "eternal life", should have been translated: zOE-life(feminine), breath-being-belonging-to-her.

It's talking about a here and now potential and not some 'eternity'.

ai = breath
On = being as in existence
aiOn refers to an unspecified length of time (breath-being) including the present. It is sometimes erroneously translated as "world"
ios = belonging-to with the "i" also making it an adjective

Greek words are a root such as 'ai' with the rest of the alphabet soup being the grammatical infection. In Greek every letter is important.

Sorry, I have NO IDEA why people preach what they preach when it is not biblical. To be fair to the bible, ALL theology is NOT biblical! Yet, they teach theology as "truth". Theology is ecclesiastical nonsense perpetuated by a clergy!

Um.....

Quote:New International Version
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

New Living Translation
"For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.

English Standard Version
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

Berean Study Bible
For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Berean Literal Bible
For God so loved the world that He gave the only begotten Son, so that everyone believing in Him should not perish, but should have eternal life.

New American Standard Bible
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

King James Bible
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
"For God loved the world in this way: He gave His One and Only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life.

International Standard Version
"For this is how God loved the world: He gave his unique Son so that everyone who believes in him might not be lost but have eternal life.

NET Bible
For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.

New Heart English Bible
For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that whoever believes in him will not perish, but have eternal life.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For God loved the world in this way: so much that he would give up his Son, The Only One, so that everyone who trusts in him shall not be lost, but he shall have eternal life.

So all of these experts are wrong and YOU are right, huh?
Hyper-Literal(same verse): For(assigning a reason) thusly He-agapaO-loves*, thee God, thee kosmos-world even-as-and-also thee Son of-Him-same, namely--thee uniquely-begotten-One, He-gives* that(purpose) any thee one-keeps-on-trusting(not one decision but a continuous attitude of trust) into Him-same no he-might-be(acting upon himself--stupidly)-be-rendered-useless (IOW, Keep on trusting and you can't screw it up) but-rather he-might-be(and keep on)-having zOE-life(feminine), breath-being-belong-to-her(right here, right now). John 3:16

It's quite beautiful in the Greek. Theology doesn't honor the Greek. Theology only honors theology. They manipulate the Greek with high sounding manipulative grammar tools in their bag of tricks to teach their theologic prejudice of what those words MUST mean.

If they translate it that way then they will have a difficult time with:

Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer; and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. 1 John 3:15 NASB

Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer; and you(-all) know that no murderer has eternal(breath-being-belonging-to-her) (zOE-)life(feminine) abiding(making its home) in him (right here, right now). 1 John 3:15 NASB

We can now file that tricky verse in the !DUH! file.
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Eternal afterlife - by purplepurpose - November 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by Minimalist - November 21, 2017 at 3:57 pm
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by purplepurpose - November 21, 2017 at 4:05 pm
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by Minimalist - November 21, 2017 at 4:16 pm
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by vulcanlogician - November 21, 2017 at 4:21 pm
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by Cyberman - November 21, 2017 at 4:42 pm
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by Ravenshire - November 21, 2017 at 6:10 pm
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 5, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by Banned - January 19, 2018 at 2:17 am
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by Brian37 - November 21, 2017 at 4:12 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2017 at 4:38 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Succubus - November 21, 2017 at 6:15 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - November 21, 2017 at 6:20 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Haipule - November 21, 2017 at 8:38 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - November 21, 2017 at 8:46 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Minimalist - November 21, 2017 at 10:01 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Haipule - November 22, 2017 at 4:44 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by snowtracks - November 21, 2017 at 9:30 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cod - November 22, 2017 at 1:00 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Angrboda - November 22, 2017 at 2:16 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cod - November 22, 2017 at 2:29 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - November 22, 2017 at 3:00 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by snowtracks - December 23, 2017 at 2:44 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 23, 2017 at 5:09 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Nay_Sayer - January 1, 2018 at 12:51 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by purplepurpose - January 1, 2018 at 12:53 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Whateverist - January 1, 2018 at 12:57 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by pocaracas - January 1, 2018 at 3:49 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Agnosty - January 5, 2018 at 10:24 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by snowtracks - January 6, 2018 at 4:23 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Agnosty - January 7, 2018 at 4:54 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Mr.Obvious - January 7, 2018 at 5:53 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by snowtracks - January 9, 2018 at 9:21 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Angrboda - January 9, 2018 at 9:25 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Mr.Obvious - January 10, 2018 at 2:35 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Harry Nevis - November 22, 2017 at 2:11 pm
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RE: Eternal afterlife - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 28, 2017 at 6:51 pm
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RE: Eternal afterlife - by purplepurpose - November 22, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Aegon - November 22, 2017 at 12:40 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Minimalist - November 22, 2017 at 12:44 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Godscreated - November 25, 2017 at 1:39 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cod - November 25, 2017 at 4:27 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Godscreated - November 27, 2017 at 6:44 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Haipule - November 28, 2017 at 10:18 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Godscreated - November 29, 2017 at 4:17 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Haipule - November 30, 2017 at 2:05 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Godscreated - November 30, 2017 at 2:59 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Haipule - November 30, 2017 at 4:24 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Edwardo Piet - November 28, 2017 at 11:22 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Ravenshire - November 29, 2017 at 12:33 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Godscreated - November 29, 2017 at 3:52 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Edwardo Piet - November 29, 2017 at 8:28 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Ravenshire - November 29, 2017 at 1:17 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cod - November 29, 2017 at 8:59 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Fake Messiah - November 29, 2017 at 4:16 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Minimalist - November 29, 2017 at 12:45 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 30, 2017 at 3:05 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Neo-Scholastic - January 1, 2018 at 3:34 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Agnosty - January 5, 2018 at 10:03 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by RoadRunner79 - January 5, 2018 at 10:07 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 28, 2017 at 8:20 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Valkyrie - November 28, 2017 at 11:40 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Minimalist - November 29, 2017 at 12:50 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 29, 2017 at 5:14 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Drich - November 29, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - November 30, 2017 at 12:59 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2018 at 10:21 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by purplepurpose - January 7, 2018 at 11:26 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by RoadRunner79 - January 7, 2018 at 2:53 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by purplepurpose - January 7, 2018 at 2:56 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by RoadRunner79 - January 7, 2018 at 3:30 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 10, 2018 at 9:28 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 2:19 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by snowtracks - January 19, 2018 at 4:25 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cinjin - January 22, 2018 at 9:15 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - January 26, 2018 at 5:55 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Succubus - January 26, 2018 at 8:41 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cinjin - January 28, 2018 at 12:02 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - January 28, 2018 at 3:39 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cinjin - January 28, 2018 at 1:06 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Victory123 - January 29, 2018 at 5:08 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Ravenshire - January 29, 2018 at 11:01 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - February 1, 2018 at 7:49 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Sal - February 1, 2018 at 7:56 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - February 1, 2018 at 3:49 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Ravenshire - February 1, 2018 at 1:03 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 6:03 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by snowtracks - February 11, 2018 at 12:46 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - January 26, 2018 at 7:36 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - January 28, 2018 at 12:34 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - January 28, 2018 at 1:03 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - January 29, 2018 at 8:08 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Mister Agenda - January 29, 2018 at 10:58 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Victory123 - January 29, 2018 at 5:02 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by vulcanlogician - January 29, 2018 at 5:04 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by pocaracas - January 29, 2018 at 5:55 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by brewer - January 29, 2018 at 6:30 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - January 29, 2018 at 7:56 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cod - January 30, 2018 at 4:50 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Minimalist - January 30, 2018 at 12:12 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by polymath257 - January 30, 2018 at 12:19 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Mister Agenda - January 29, 2018 at 6:56 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Victory123 - January 30, 2018 at 6:17 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Mister Agenda - January 30, 2018 at 6:36 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - January 30, 2018 at 11:57 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - January 30, 2018 at 7:42 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by ohreally - January 31, 2018 at 1:17 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - January 31, 2018 at 12:52 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2018 at 2:04 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by vulcanlogician - February 1, 2018 at 2:21 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2018 at 8:00 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 6:49 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cod - February 2, 2018 at 7:10 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2018 at 7:07 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 7:26 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - February 2, 2018 at 7:58 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2018 at 8:58 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 9:16 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2018 at 9:16 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 9:19 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - February 2, 2018 at 9:25 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2018 at 4:46 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by purplepurpose - February 11, 2018 at 7:38 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - February 11, 2018 at 7:50 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - February 12, 2018 at 6:01 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Abaddon_ire - February 14, 2018 at 8:46 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2018 at 1:25 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Fake Messiah - February 13, 2018 at 4:38 pm

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