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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 21, 2017 at 6:20 pm
I'm honoured.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 21, 2017 at 8:38 pm
(November 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Eternal punishment for temporary crimes and eternal heaven for temporary work? It sounds unnatural. And yet people preach it like it's perfect God's word. Technically, the idea of "eternal" is nonsensical. Biblically, it is the Greek adjective aiOnios and should have been translated: breath-being-belonging-to-him/her/it. Such as zOEn aiOnion in John 3:16, translated "eternal life", should have been translated: zOE-life(feminine), breath-being-belonging-to-her.
It's talking about a here and now potential and not some 'eternity'.
ai = breath
On = being as in existence
aiOn refers to an unspecified length of time (breath-being) including the present. It is sometimes erroneously translated as "world"
ios = belonging-to with the "i" also making it an adjective
Greek words are a root such as 'ai' with the rest of the alphabet soup being the grammatical infection. In Greek every letter is important.
Sorry, I have NO IDEA why people preach what they preach when it is not biblical. To be fair to the bible, ALL theology is NOT biblical! Yet, they teach theology as "truth". Theology is ecclesiastical nonsense perpetuated by a clergy!
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 21, 2017 at 8:46 pm
(November 21, 2017 at 8:38 pm)Haipule Wrote: Sorry, I have NO IDEA why people preach what they preach when it is not biblical. To be fair to the bible, ALL theology is NOT biblical! Yet, they teach theology as "truth". Theology is ecclesiastical nonsense perpetuated by a clergy!
That's interesting...
(November 21, 2017 at 5:13 pm)Haipule Wrote: That "god-in-the-box", with is contents, dielectric and electric materials, gold cover, cherub wings and raised platform, was a super capacitor of immense power. I would've suggested not to touch it as well.
Still waiting for a citation for that.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 21, 2017 at 9:30 pm
(November 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Eternal punishment for temporary crimes and eternal heaven for temporary work? It sounds unnatural. And yet people preach it like it's perfect God's word. Currently, no one occupies Hell (probably not even in existence yet), the first 2 to enter are the Anti-Christ, and His False Prophet which is before the 1000 year Kingdom Reign of Christ on earth. 3'rd is Satan himself at the end of the 1000 years (for that period, for almost it's entire duration, he will be held in the bottomless pit). At the end of the 1000 years, there is the Great White Judgement of those that wish not to accept God's Work-of-Redemption and desire go into their eternal abode without God's influence. But God still protects those there from the one's who demonstrated the most evil on earth by restraining there actions which causes them 'torment'. The 'New Creation' is a free sin zone but the really good part is free-will is greatly enhanced without even the possibility of sinning.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 21, 2017 at 9:49 pm
Smiles while backing away slowly.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 21, 2017 at 10:01 pm
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(November 21, 2017 at 8:38 pm)Haipule Wrote: (November 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Eternal punishment for temporary crimes and eternal heaven for temporary work? It sounds unnatural. And yet people preach it like it's perfect God's word. Technically, the idea of "eternal" is nonsensical. Biblically, it is the Greek adjective aiOnios and should have been translated: breath-being-belonging-to-him/her/it. Such as zOEn aiOnion in John 3:16, translated "eternal life", should have been translated: zOE-life(feminine), breath-being-belonging-to-her.
It's talking about a here and now potential and not some 'eternity'.
ai = breath
On = being as in existence
aiOn refers to an unspecified length of time (breath-being) including the present. It is sometimes erroneously translated as "world"
ios = belonging-to with the "i" also making it an adjective
Greek words are a root such as 'ai' with the rest of the alphabet soup being the grammatical infection. In Greek every letter is important.
Sorry, I have NO IDEA why people preach what they preach when it is not biblical. To be fair to the bible, ALL theology is NOT biblical! Yet, they teach theology as "truth". Theology is ecclesiastical nonsense perpetuated by a clergy!
Um.....
Quote:New International Version
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
New Living Translation
"For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
English Standard Version
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Berean Study Bible
For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Berean Literal Bible
For God so loved the world that He gave the only begotten Son, so that everyone believing in Him should not perish, but should have eternal life.
New American Standard Bible
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
King James Bible
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
"For God loved the world in this way: He gave His One and Only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life.
International Standard Version
"For this is how God loved the world: He gave his unique Son so that everyone who believes in him might not be lost but have eternal life.
NET Bible
For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
New Heart English Bible
For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that whoever believes in him will not perish, but have eternal life.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For God loved the world in this way: so much that he would give up his Son, The Only One, so that everyone who trusts in him shall not be lost, but he shall have eternal life.
So all of these experts are wrong and YOU are right, huh?
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 22, 2017 at 12:26 pm
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The Afterlife of the Force was a descriptive term used for the plane of existence all souls inhabited after death. Contrary to a belief once held by the Jedi, this realm was open to anyone whether or not they possessed Force sensitivity. It was a non-physical location that could be given the appearance of a three-dimensional space depending on the perception of a being that entered the realm.
Real topic on starwars forum:
What happens when Sith die?
Like, do they become one with the dark side or something?
@It's something I honestly don't know, that's why I'm asking... I don't know if anything has ever been said about it one way or the other. I consider myself reasonably knowledgable on SW, but i sure haven't read every SW publication there is, not by a long shot. So while I haven't seen any commentary on that that I can remember, there may be something said about it somewhere.
@From what I recall about ROTS novelization, the Sith are always trying to learn the secret of eternal life, but they never can master it. One has to be selfless and such things that the Sith are not.
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 22, 2017 at 12:40 pm
(November 22, 2017 at 12:26 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: The Afterlife of the Force was a descriptive term used for the plane of existence all souls inhabited after death. Contrary to a belief once held by the Jedi, this realm was open to anyone whether or not they possessed Force sensitivity. It was a non-physical location that could be given the appearance of a three-dimensional space depending on the perception of a being that entered the realm.
That's just fan fiction drivel
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 22, 2017 at 12:44 pm
So is the bible!
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 22, 2017 at 1:00 pm
(November 21, 2017 at 9:30 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Eternal punishment for temporary crimes and eternal heaven for temporary work? It sounds unnatural. And yet people preach it like it's perfect God's word. Currently, no one occupies Hell (probably not even in existence yet), the first 2 to enter are the Anti-Christ, and His False Prophet which is before the 1000 year Kingdom Reign of Christ on earth. 3'rd is Satan himself at the end of the 1000 years (for that period, for almost it's entire duration, he will be held in the bottomless pit). At the end of the 1000 years, there is the Great White Judgement of those that wish not to accept God's Work-of-Redemption and desire go into their eternal abode without God's influence. But God still protects those there from the one's who demonstrated the most evil on earth by restraining there actions which causes them 'torment'. The 'New Creation' is a free sin zone but the really good part is free-will is greatly enhanced without even the possibility of sinning.
No possibility of sinning, what's the point of that then? I've lived quite happily without Gods influence up to now, I can cope with being separate from him as long as I'm not on fire.
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