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Theists: What do you mean when you say that God is 'perfect'?
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RE: Theists: What do you mean when you say that God is 'perfect'?
(November 30, 2017 at 4:10 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(November 30, 2017 at 12:23 pm)SteveII Wrote: I think your definition of 'perfect' is not quite right. A perfect attribute is not the best as a result of comparison. It is the best because it achieves a standard for which we could conceive no better
So, a perfect god with no relationships is not substantially bettered by a perfect god -with- relationships?

(November 30, 2017 at 3:09 pm)SteveII Wrote: In your conclusion "that a truly perfect being would be completely self-satisfied and wouldn't need or want anything" is obviously wrong.  The experience of a relationship with creatures of free would seem to add something of value that was not there before.

So a perfect god is not made better by adding something of value that was not there before?  Perfection was lacking something of value?

Category error.  I clearly said earlier that 'perfect' modifies an attribute and not a person. So, adding experiences does add to God--namely experiences. However, the experience in no way detracts from the perfect attributes because it has nothing to do with them.



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RE: Theists: What do you mean when you say that God is 'perfect'? - by SteveII - November 30, 2017 at 4:35 pm

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