RE: Theists: What do you mean when you say that God is 'perfect'?
December 1, 2017 at 9:33 pm
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2017 at 9:35 pm by WinterHold.)
(December 1, 2017 at 8:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(December 1, 2017 at 8:25 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: I will give you a quick note; but because I'm not like you I will sum it up to the maximum.
The Arabic verse doesn't contain the sentence you included whatsoever, which is
That verse doesn't include the sentence -(of mine)-., neither language on your side nor existence of the sentence.
When something doesn't exist in a book, but you add it anyways, using that the members here don't speak Arabic, is a very desperate and a very low thing.
It's called "forgery", "fraud"...etc.
I never debate a fraud because it's a waste of time.
Again; walls of text aren't the answer for the forgery you just commit, by stuffing the sentence "-(of mine)-" in the verse.
You are the one being deceptive, in the Arabic, the "the near kin" doesn't have to mean "your" or "my" or general way and it's determined by context, but the Quran gives context throughout speaking of the chosen families of the past, that the Prophets came in form of chosen families, and mentioned the family of Abraham before Ulil-Amr, Surahs and Surahs about the concept of chosen families over and over again, that it is the most deceptive thing a Muslim can do is say that it's not clearly about the family of Mohammad and God's curse be upon those who have iota of hatred towards the chosen guides appointed by God.
No; MK.
Let's explain and translate the verse, word by word:
The original Arabic text:
ذَٰلِكَ الَّذِي يُبَشِّرُ اللَّهُ عِبَادَهُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ ۗ قُل لَّا أَسْأَلُكُمْ عَلَيْهِ أَجْرًا إِلَّا الْمَوَدَّةَ فِي الْقُرْبَىٰ ۗ وَمَن يَقْتَرِفْ حَسَنَةً نَّزِدْ لَهُ فِيهَا حُسْنًا ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ شَكُورٌ
Translation (google translate is not used):
ذَٰلِكَ الَّذِي: It is
يُبَشِّرُ اللَّهُ عِبَادَهُ : of which Allah gives good tidings to His servants
الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ ۗ: who believe and do righteous deeds.
قُل لَّا أَسْأَلُكُمْ عَلَيْهِ أَجْرًا إِلَّا الْمَوَدَّةَ فِي الْقُرْبَىٰ: Say, [O Muhammad], "I do not ask you for this message any payment [but] only good will through kinship."
وَمَن يَقْتَرِفْ حَسَنَةً نَّزِدْ لَهُ فِيهَا حُسْنًا ۚ:And whoever commits a good deed - We will increase for him good therein.
إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ شَكُورٌ :Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Appreciative.
Where is the sentence you speak about?
I literally translated it literally, but I can't see not from close or from far how the explanation you use twisted and stuffed the verse with Shiite stuff!
This verse -literally- is saying that Prophet Mohammed was ordered to tell people to be good to their kinship, and to not ask for cash!
This is exactly why I disbelieved in the Shiite/Sunni schools: they love to forge and twist.
The context is not speaking whatsoever about a certain family? I translated for you, word by word !
Please; stop !