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Theists: What do you mean when you say that God is 'perfect'?
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RE: Theists: What do you mean when you say that God is 'perfect'?
(December 9, 2017 at 1:42 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(December 9, 2017 at 1:37 am)possibletarian Wrote: Why would a perfect creator test his creation?
That implies degree of the unknown, when we test things it's an admittance of incomplete knowledge as to whether what we have made is up to the task.

In order to be "perfect"; he must be perfect in terms of justice; too.
Compulsion is no way of perfection, the creations that have consciousness must decide themselves where they want to be; hell or heaven, without compulsion.

Hell is the justified final destination for anybody choosing the wrong answer.

(December 9, 2017 at 1:37 am)possibletarian Wrote: Why would a perfect creator test his creation?
That implies degree of the unknown, when we test things it's an admittance of incomplete knowledge as to whether what we have made is up to the task.  I can understand this being a human concept, but not the work of a perfect creator.

God knows the future of everything. But for the future to be justified; it must run and happen.
He won't be just if he compulsively enforced the track. He would be a puppet master then.

Which makes our own imaging of God quite lame. God looks to me as more of an eternal system, not devised by anyone and not like anything else. Not created and like anything we even saw or knew.

Yes i agree our image of god is very lame, I assume god could create perfect beings, but choose for some reason not to for the sake of a 'perfect' justice. Makes no sense to me at all, how can you create being you know will not be perfect, then test them knowing they will fail when you could have made them to pass the test in the first pace ?

Why would creating perfect beings be coercive in any way ?
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'



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RE: Theists: What do you mean when you say that God is 'perfect'? - by possibletarian - December 9, 2017 at 1:58 am

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