RE: Human beings have virtually no value if they are just machines
December 11, 2017 at 7:23 pm
(This post was last modified: December 11, 2017 at 7:25 pm by Simon Moon.)
(December 11, 2017 at 6:41 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: But if we as human beings are nothing more than biological machines who have only this one life to live, then that reduces us to nothing more than materialistic things. Since we are truly insignificant and nothing special in this universe which is something that is often said by skeptics such as the likes of Lawrence Krauss, then this means that the type of value we as human beings have would be reduced to nothing more than the type of value that materialistic things have. We would be nothing more than insignificant biological machines and that is the lesser value we would have. There is nothing warranting a higher value attributed to us as human beings if we are just biological machines living this one and only life. The way I see it, the only thing that can bestow us this higher value would be the very notion of us being special in this universe. That is, us being eternal souls who get to live on in the afterlife where we greet deceased loved ones, live happy forever after, etc. If we are just biological machines living this one and only life, then we instead have every reason to treat our family and other people in this world as insignificant, materialistic things such as a shaver, book, bike, computer, etc.
Just because there is no ultimate 'value giver' or afterlife, does not mean we don't have value.
We have value to ourselves, our family, and friends. We have value for the positive influences we have on other people. And we have value to the rest of humanity as a human. And my family, friends and the rest of humanity have value to me.
Not sure what else is needed, or even wanted?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.