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Human beings have virtually no value if they are just machines
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RE: Human beings have virtually no value if they are just machines
(December 15, 2017 at 6:49 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: You're right in that the life in you is not a trick but it, also not magic. It is simply biologic life. When the biology stops so shall you. And me, and everyone. 

Life can also be love, grace, fairness, reward and justice. However those attributes do not require a fantasy god. 

Your "Source" is your delusion. That is the trick.

Well, even if we count the wonderful graces in life, according to the god of fertilizer, they will amount to nothing in the end, so where do you find reward or justice in that?

(December 15, 2017 at 6:55 pm)Cyberman Wrote:
(December 15, 2017 at 6:24 pm)Starhunter Wrote: Isn't science trying to emulate that biological machination?

Sorry, I don't chase red herrings. Please acknowledge my question. And look up "machinations".

My mistake.

(December 15, 2017 at 6:54 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yep, that is it. The sun was around before humans, didn't give a shit about us back then, and it has no capability of giving a shit about us after it explodes and our solar system dies. 

Unfortunately you see that as fatalistic instead of simply valuing the ride while it exists and look for real answers to extend the ride.

I find NOTHING fatalistic about reality, even though it does have bad things in it. I do see a superstitious species that will cling to the past more often than not when it also has the capability of curiosity and logic and reason. Humans perceptions are notoriously flawed, but we are ALSO capable of questioning too.
It doesn't matter how much you extend the ride of life, when it ends, it's over and it's pointless. Unless you imagine that someone will remember you and be pleased. Well the historical facts are that eventually no one remembers the people of the past.
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