RE: Human beings have virtually no value if they are just machines
December 15, 2017 at 7:28 pm
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2017 at 7:30 pm by Brian37.)
(December 15, 2017 at 6:33 pm)Starhunter Wrote:(December 15, 2017 at 6:15 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Life is real, that is is the only thing we agree on. I simply do not assign all this to a sky hero. Just like you'd rightfully scoff at anyone claiming lightening is caused by Thor.
I am sorry someone sold you old mythology and told you that was the key to happiness and goodness now, but that is your baggage. Atheists can do good and be good without mythology.
And as far as the false desire of eternity, that is not a real thing, that is simply your own evolutionary drive put in comic book mythology form before humans scientifically figured out what drives evolution and evolution itself.
But, if you merely want to argue "Why wouldn't you want to be forever?"
We can dress that too.
If we can live forever as the claims of religions claim in the form an afterlife. THAT WOULD get boring after a while. But worse than getting boring, is the idea especially with the authoritarian claims of the God of Abraham, if I couldn't feel my own emotions in heaven, and all I felt was joy, then basically my own autonomy is taken from me and my only purpose is to suck one guy's ego.
But, don't feel bad, the Asian concept of "reincarnation" is just as absurd. If you did bad in a prior life, you come back as a lesser life, if you do good in this life, you gain prosperity in the next. it is simply another superstitious version of a fictional "forever".
OK. But you are allowed to feel whatever you want in heaven. God's angels have disappointments and grief just like we do. Only a fool wears a permanent grin.
Oh bullshit.
There is no heaven or hell, but if we are going to pretend for argument's sake, that STILL makes no sense.
If I am allowed to have my own feelings, then what sense would it make if heaven is supposed to be pure joy, to feel pain for those who are not dead, or suffering. Or, what if I suddenly think while there that God is a douchebage and don't want to hang out with him anymore? Do I still maintain my own freedom?
How about reality now?
Humans back then, even in POLYTHEISM, had no clue of the nature of reality, and humans lived under local ruling families. And humans simply mistook their local success as coming from a super natural place.
Maybe YOU need to consider, that "God" is really no different than "Ra" the Egyptian Sun God, or "Brahama" the Hindu creator God.
FYI do you even know where the word "Yahweh" stems from, and no, the Jews did not invent it.