(December 15, 2017 at 8:39 pm)Starhunter Wrote:(December 15, 2017 at 8:21 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Thanks, and I do mean that, but do me one favor, please ditch the idea that "godless" means " lawless" or " we are just machines".
...the poem is NOT advocating suicide. All it is arguing is once you give up on the fear of punishment in a fictional afterlife you free yourself up to be less stressed out over an imperfect world.
Yep, it's an expression...word art...
(December 15, 2017 at 6:05 pm)Cyberman Wrote: How do you know it's the source of life, and that there's a rope?
I wish you guys would show that there's a 'there' there, before expecting us to run full tilt at it. Just one time.
I have never thought otherwise, and never felt otherwise, so I don't know what I would look for, that isn't already very apparent to me.
"Apparent" is the key, and science has proven that our species perceptions of reality are notoriously flawed.
We don't doubt you truly believe your position, you are not the first theist we have ever debated. What we do doubt is your perception of reality.
