RE: Record few Americans believe in Biblical inerrancy.
December 22, 2017 at 5:20 pm
(This post was last modified: December 22, 2017 at 5:31 pm by vulcanlogician.)
(December 22, 2017 at 5:02 am)alpha male Wrote:(December 21, 2017 at 5:57 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Logic and reason can lead you to conclude otherwise as well.Since logic can lead to opposite conclusions, why do you value it so highly?
I want to just clear some things up about logic here. It's not magical. It doesn't fix everything. It doesn't solve all the mysteries of the universe. But it is a useful tool. It has two things going for it: it's reliable and it's consistent. To try to paint it as something one can bend to one's will to make it say anything is incorrect. You're thinking of scripture. Here's a good example of how useful logic can be (borrowed from my Introduction to Logic class).
Let's say you are a professor whose classroom is found in the center of a building and thus has no windows. If your students came in the room wearing raincoats and carrying umbrellas that were dripping with water, it would be rather stupid to ask, "Why are you guys all wet?"
You can use logic to say, "It's probably raining outside. That's how they got wet." Even though you don't have windows in your room, you can figure this out. Now, you could be wrong. Maybe your students are playing a trick on you. Maybe they all got together and decided to wear raincoats to class, and one of them got a hose out and sprayed the students as they walked in the building. In this case, logic hasn't steered you wrong. You merely didn't have all the information. Had you somehow found out the students plans and had access to a weather report, you might deduce something different. Remember that even in the first case, you said "It's probably raining." Not "I'm absolutely sure." A good logician takes into account that there is a chance his conclusion is wrong. A good logician knows the limitations of his tool. Given the evidence you had at your disposal, the best conclusion was that "it's raining."
As useful is logic is in making determinations, the person using it can end up employing it incorrectly (this is known as a fallacy--anyone who has read three threads in this forum ought to be familiar with the term). Through my own misunderstanding of logic, I accused another member of committing a fallacy yesterday. (So even someone like me, who highly values logic, can make mistakes from time to time.) The cool thing was, the member pointed out my mistake, and after some head-scratching followed by some reading, I was able to clearly see where I had gone wrong.
I wrote all this so that you would see how realistically I view logic, and put to rest any notions that one can use it to say anything. Sorry if you feel like I wasted your time or told you things you already knew. Just saying, logic is a tool for me as it is for you. It's just that in the realm of drawing conclusions about the world, it is a better tool than faith.