Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions

[Pat Mustard]

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Re the photo you just can't stop lying can you theist?

The photo shows the aborted foetus that had already (for want of a better term) died in the womb before abortion. It was never going to survive, it had already failed to survive.

And the only thing carrying the foetus would do would cause pain and possible life threat to the mother, the only living person in the equation.

For someone who calls themselves "pro-life" you are very callous about life. But then again, that's the whole point of the whole anti-abortion movement, they don't give two fucks about life. If they were they'd be campaigning for the end to the death penalty, an end to poverty, a nationalised health system, extremely stringent gun laws, tighter speeding and drunk driving regulations and all those other things which contribute to millions of lives avoidably lost every single year.

But the only thing they campaign on is the one thing which is deleterious to women's rights. I wouldn't be surprised if they did get abortion banned their next campaign would be for the re-designation of women as non-wasting chattel and the decriminalisation of marital rape (for illustration purposes in Ireland a woman was legally her husbands property {chattel} until the 1970's and marital rape wasn't criminalised until 1991).

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A) Twenty weeks is not too late. The foetus is not viable outside the womb. That viability figure hasn't budged since the UK set 24 weeks as the limit in the 60s. B) The video is from a fundie anti-abortion group well known and notorious for doctoring and releasing faked videos. This is the group after all which made and released the lying videos accusing PP of selling tissues of aborted foetuses.

https://www.babycentre.co.uk/20-weeks-pregnant

Sorry guys, but this is a baby.  20 weeks is half way through the pregnancy.  The fetus can move, suck its thumb, taste amniotic fluid, and hear mom’s voice.  It is my opinion, from a moral perspective, that 20 weeks is too late to say, ‘eh, I’ve changhed my mind.’

It is not viable outside the womb. At 20 weeks no foetuses survive if childbirth is induced (either naturally or in a hospital setting). The brain is massively underdeveloped, unable to control simple functions like breathing or other automatic systems. The foetus is still two months away from having the brain or nervous system capacity to feel pain. It has no sense of personhood (well this one is problematic to be considered in terms of abortions because it is likely that a baby takes over a year after birth to properly develop a sense of person).

It is not a baby, it is not even close to being a baby.