RE: The benefits of being christian. Where are there???
December 25, 2017 at 3:50 pm
(This post was last modified: December 25, 2017 at 4:54 pm by Banned.)
(December 25, 2017 at 10:58 am)Grandizer Wrote:Sorry, I messed that one up.(December 24, 2017 at 11:38 pm)Starhunter Wrote: That's like saying, "I find it incredibly hard to believe how people can fall in love and actually produce another living human being, that believe it or not, starts off as a helpless and dependant baby, without using critical thinking skills."
Read this too many times and still makes no sense to me.
What I was trying to say is, the most complex and important things in life occur without critical thinking, so what makes you think that critical thinking is the way to find the answers to some of life's big questions?
(December 25, 2017 at 10:50 am)Mermaid Wrote:(December 24, 2017 at 9:14 pm)Starhunter Wrote: That higher power, is with you today...
Have a safe holiday.
Yyyyeah. That's not gonna hold water with me.
You have a nice holiday, too though.
Why, may I ask?
(December 25, 2017 at 11:13 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:(December 25, 2017 at 10:58 am)Grandizer Wrote: Read this too many times and still makes no sense to me.
I think what SH is saying is that one arrives at religious truths without critical thinking, much the same way that a baby is produced without critical thinking. What his proposition fails to recognize, however, is that critical thinking prevents error by subjecting all ideas to scrutiny. Critical thinking isn't about producing an idea. It's about finding the right idea. He thinks critical thinking is like "inventing" or "giving birth to" ideas-- no. It's a process whereby an idea's validity is tested.
IMO (assuming that I have correctly interpreted SH's statement) it is a bad analogy.
(December 24, 2017 at 9:14 pm)Starhunter Wrote: You have never been allowed to experience anything that you could not handle...
Where do Christians get this idea? Anyone who has suffered a traumatic event which caused them to commit suicide was "given more than they could handle" by my definition. It happens, too.
https://www.ptsd.va.gov/professional/co-...uicide.asp
Quote:A body of research indicates that there is a correlation between many types of trauma and suicidal behaviors. For example, there is evidence that traumatic events such as childhood abuse may increase a person's suicide risk (4,5). A history of military sexual trauma (MST) also increases the risk for suicide and intentional self-harm, suggesting a need to screen for suicide risk in this population (6).
"God" gives people more than they can handle all the time. When Christians claim this, does it come with a footnote? (Christians work better with editing powers, don't cha know.)
"Do not bear false witness [unless you don't like the guy or he has offended you]"
"Give away all your wealth [unless you like having your wealth around]"
"Judge not [if it is September 26th 1964 at 3:29 PM and you're standing in the shade, otherwise judge all you want]"
Something like that...thanks anyway.
What you are saying is that critical thinking is a way of defining what already is discovered and agreed on, in other words it is trying to state the obvious, which is fine with me, but when it tries to define the mysteries of the universe... I am thinking about the guessing that's going on in what they would like to call science. Anyway, that's another page, or book rather, to write about.
As for suffering, the world is not short of suffering by any means, and I have met people whose lives go beyond words... but I have also seen children/people in the worst cases rise above their situation, though it may have taken them a lifetime. I know of a situation where every child under the same conditions, handled it differently, though given the same opportunities as adults to deal with their past. It is interesting that the weakest shild, became the strongest, by not rejecting Jesus Christ, and that person became instrumental in helping the sibllings, psychologically and spiritually. After many years, the entire family began to heal, from anxieties and habits of transferring unresolved pain.
All had contemplated suicide for most of their lives. But the most damaged child, figured out that it is better to surrender to Christ than to death. And that Jesus is the perfect example of a life of selflessness, of self sacrifice for others. Sinners balk at this, becaue they are self centered. It takes real love to surrender to God, but it only takes a hasty plan to kill oneself.
(December 25, 2017 at 2:15 pm)Hammy Wrote:(December 24, 2017 at 6:47 pm)Cyberman Wrote: I'm so gay...
I love ...
My bold...
You are not who you pose to be on this forum, and that you play games with people's minds on different forums, as a different character, as I have always suspected. You like to take the extremes in any situation and flaunt them, in order to create what your superior (control) knows as the Hegelian dialectic.
What you are doing now, will be better understood and exposed to the world in general in the near future, and the authorities will take the right action against the likes of you, but at the moment you are enjoying the life of an abuser.
