RE: Record few Americans believe in Biblical inerrancy.
December 26, 2017 at 6:14 pm
(This post was last modified: December 26, 2017 at 6:16 pm by Jehanne.)
(December 26, 2017 at 3:40 pm)Drich Wrote:(December 23, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Jehanne Wrote: "Twice nothing is still nothing."And after 1900 years they still tell the same story.
Most of the manuscripts that scholars have are in Latin, which means that they are, at best, a translation from the original Greek manuscripts. Of course, Jesus spoke Aramaic, and he and his disciples were all illiterate, which means that his words were written down by second or third generation Christians scattered about in the Roman Empire some 40 to 80 years after his execution. Here's a list of all of the extant New Testament manuscripts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ne...ent_papyri
As you can see, the earliest are in the 2nd century, over 100 years after Jesus' death.
You guy start out with the idea that the bible is like playing a gme of "telephone" in grammar school where everyone is lined up and the first kid is told to pass the second kid a phrase down to the last kid to see how much has changed.
Now you've got 1800 years of consistency now you want to say they is not enough?? are you kidding? we have more original works of Christ that we do of William shake spear. no one doubts shakespear's works. because in the real world 132 to 150+ 2000 year old papyri are more than enough to establish "truth."
No mainstream scholar believes that the Gospels contain the verbatim words of Jesus. Do you consider the following to have been spoken by the historical Jesus:
Quote:(112) Jesus said, "Woe to the flesh that depends on the soul; woe to the soul that depends on the flesh."
(113) His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"
<Jesus said,> "It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'here it is' or 'there it is.' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it."
(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."
The Gospel of Thomas
If not, why not?