RE: Record few Americans believe in Biblical inerrancy.
December 28, 2017 at 1:08 pm
(This post was last modified: December 28, 2017 at 1:09 pm by John V.)
(December 27, 2017 at 7:15 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Okay, so I think I need to show you what I mean when I say logic is consistent:
Not really. Consistency by itself doesn't get you anywhere. And while you can technically divorce logic from the premises it acts on, for practical purposes they're bundled. Logical rules without premises to act on don't accomplish anything.
Quote:And also, many philosophers (at least historically) have been theists who tried to logically argue for the existence of God.
Yes, and some secular philosophers participate. That was a point I considered making earlier but omitted.
Quote:My comparison was between inerrantists and philosophers, not theists and philosophers. I slipped up there, and you were right to call me out on it.
That doesn't change anything. Inerrantists still differ in interpretation.
Quote:So? Some people suck at their jobs.
Not necessarily, as you go on to note yourself.
Quote:George Berkeley was a theistic philosopher who utterly rejected materialism. He called his philosophy "immaterialism"-- ie. the opposite of materialism. However, he also used logic to reach his conclusions. To value logic in no way makes you a materialist by default.
I haven't said I value logic in no way. You've got to watch your false dichotomies.
(December 28, 2017 at 1:05 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Because the fucking church insisted.
Back when they had power they could be quite persuasive!
How long was it between the writing of Luke and the church having such power?