RE: New Star Wars movie is well received by the critics.
December 28, 2017 at 5:29 pm
(This post was last modified: December 28, 2017 at 5:57 pm by Aroura.)
(December 27, 2017 at 12:03 pm)Whateverist Wrote:(December 21, 2017 at 10:00 am)Aroura Wrote: Same here. I read a really great article that covers it, here:
https://www.avclub.com/this-is-not-going...1821472840
Basically, the movie is about letting go of the past, that there are no happy endings. Every "win" is temporary, even hero can make massive mistakes, and how despite all this depressing BS, never give up hope, accept mistakes and learn from your failures. It's a devdevisive message, and sort of ironically, the people who can't follow the message of the movie regarding the movie itself are often the same ones who dont like it. And frankly thats pretty meta, and interesting!
It's a grim, adult, gritty message, and some people are really struggling to see their childhood hero as a flawed person.
Personally, I can't imagine a more fitting and beautiful story arc with an incredible conclusion for Luke. I found it deeply moving.
Good article. Definitely a better, more decisive story arc for Luke than Leia can hope for now.
I'm glad you finally got to see it!
As for others mentioning plot holes, I just gotta lol.
A New Hope had the largest, worst, most made fun of plot hole of all time. How did the Galactic Empire build a Death Star with such a massive flaw that a single person could blow the whole thing up? It's was joked about for decades, so much so that Disney actually made a whole movie JUST to explain that giant plot hole away! And a good job on that, too, btw.
I love a New Hope, so I 'm not picking on it. I'm just saying plot holes does not = terrible movie (though it can).
Other Lucas created gaping plot holes that fans pretty much ignore:
*Midi-fucking-cloreans.
*Obi-wan doesn't remember ever owning a droid, really?
*They decided to hide Luke on Vaders mothers family farm, and let him keep the name Skywalker? Come on....
*AND Obi wan picked the under cover name of "Old Ben" but kept the Kenobi. /facepalm
*When they tow the Millenium Falcon on board in Ep IV they don't search it, they just see that the logs say the crew abandoned ship. This surpasses even Stormtrooper aim levels of stupid that no military operation would ever commit.
*In Ep VI, the second death star is protected by a single radar tower that was much easier to reach than all that other shit they went through, and the rebels knew about it...but they went for the harder route because we needed to see Ewoks, I guess?
*Why is the Death Star chalk full of Ground Troops but had only a handful of Tie Fighters to defend it??? It was in space, not on a planet....
*Luke has about 1 hour of training and a chat with Obi-Wan on the Falcon before being able to use the force to blow up the whole Death Star. I'm not saying Gary Stew, but....
*Oh and in Ep IV, R2 and C3PO take an escape pod, and the command center decides not to blow it up because it had no life forms. Despite the fact they were looking to prevent transmission of stolen data, not a living person. And it's not like they were low on bullets or something. Again, the great Galactic Empire proves to be flat out stupid.
*Why didn't Qui-Gon try and find the part he needed elsewhere? They were in a port with TONS of other junk dealers. Instead he just gives up after failing to mind trick Watto or whatever that flying things name was. Just so we can see that pod race.
*Boba Fett literally dies like a Hanna Barbara cartoon character, and everyone loves Boba, so I don't want to hear shit about lame deaths in the new franchise.
*How long was Luke training with Yoda in the swamp? 'Cause it takes Han and Leia 1 day to have their adventures and then Luke senses they need him in Cloud City. The timeline makes no sense. Did Luke get trained in a day or two, or did it take a month to travel to cloud city for some reason?
I could go on. My point is the OT and the prequels have plenty of massive plot holes, screwed up timelines, and characters doing things that make 0 sense. These things alone are not enough to wreck those movies, so why would anyone nitpick the new movies?
Unless you had already made up your mind about liking it or not before you entered the theater, or you are being dishonest about why you don't like it. Maybe?
BTW, the movie has issues, I'm not saying it doesn't, but "it has plot holes" is not much of a critique, In and of itself.
There are a lot of people right now getting their opinions from the internet. Personally, I went in unspoiled, and came back and wrote my review here, which I think was very detailed, before looking at any other reviews or comments so I knew it would be unaffected by the great social media machine.
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