(December 28, 2017 at 9:11 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: How appropriate is it for Christians to have a persecution complex? I mean, Christians were pretty much in charge of the Western world since the fall of the Roman Empire. How did they treat those who were of a different faith than themselves?
The answer is simple. They killed them.
My question is this: if the way Christians are treated in modern times (ie having to bake cakes for lesbians) counts as persecution then what the FUCK do you call killing anyone who doesn't agree with you? How can any Christian fail to recognize that their perceived persecution pales in comparison to the shit they've been dishing out for centuries? If they do admit that what Christians have done historically is wrong, then they at least ought to humbly accept the fact that they no longer deserve to be in power. They had their chance and they blew it.
There seems to be some cognitive dissonance going on here. I'd love to hear from any Christians on the matter (whether you buy into this persecution nonsense or not). I understand that Christians actually were persecuted by the Pharisees in Israel and then under Nero in Rome. That was wrong. You'd just think that, since most of that was documented in the NT, that Christians would have not repeated it against others. "Do unto others" right?
Any atheists here ever been accused of persecution? IRL, I mean, not by some whackjob who strolled onto the forums...
Christians in the US do not see themselves as persecuted, for the most part anyways. We do see that some of our rights have been infringed on and some may call that persecution but I don't. Of coarse you know the old saying give them an inch and they'll take a mile, we as Christians have to be observant and watch out for that very thing to happen. We do tend to get complaisant.
Christians in other parts of the world are kill for their beliefs and that is real persecution.
The Church was responsible for a great deal of killing and that Church is still powerful today, the Catholic Church wanted power and they got it and used it in the wrong ways, Today's church is not like that nor are we responsible for the terrible and callous acts of the past.
Even though some Christians are being killed in their church services I see that as individual crazies and not organized persecution.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
