Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions

[RoadRunner79]

Yes, but just because it was the initial cause, doesn't mean that it is all the rest.  I don't think that what was described, represents most Christians, or that most I know, would equate a baby taking it's first breath, with God breathing life into Adam.

I quoted two other bible verses which support the position that the breath is the beginning of life, as well as the law from Exodus in which prenatal life is not accorded the same status as that of life that has taken a breath.  Just like you ignore evidence contrary to your opinion on abortion, Christians ignore what their own scriptures tell them.  If a Christian claims to live by the word of God, yet then ignores it and comes to a contrary position, what are we to make of it?  Personally I find such people hypocritical and their moral opinions of little value.

I disagree and don't think that is what they where intending to convey... and I'm not ignoring the scriptures, I was ignoring you, because I didn't think your intentions where noble.... there's a difference.  But if you would really like to discuss those verses, make a thread, and we'll discuss just that.

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I don't think that this represents most peoples positions who are against abortion.

I do have empathy for women in this situation.  And I do think that we need to help and support them.  

However, I don't think that the reasons given, justify the intentional killing of a person.

Perhaps it doesn't justify the killing... But the need to help and support the women with their children is not there, not even in the socialist European countries... Maybe except France...

Throughout the ages and to this day, women have felt the need to abort pregnancies. When illegal to do so, they have resorted to clandestine situations with all the risks inherent to such a practice.
Women have chosen the risk of doing something illegal with the possibility of death, over having a child. To these women, making abortion illegal is telling them that their lives are worth less than the life of the unborn.
Is it?
Is an adult human worth less than an unborn that she can have again?

That makes no sense to me at all. Why would you allow or condone an unjustified killing of a human being for any reason? I also do not follow or agree with the sentiment that making it illegal is saying anything about their lives being worth less. It is saying it is wrong to kill the baby, and you will be held accountable if you do so. Do you think this line of reasoning would hold under any other context. I also don't think that putting that type of worth, is correct at all, when talking about killing another person. Would you make the same decision if the child was a toddler, and the parent was threatening to kill either the child or them both?

And if the help and support is not there, then shouldn't we be fighting for that?