Why does science always upstage God?

[The Grand Nudger]

I am not part of any of that! Not Clement, not Eusebius and most certainly not a part of that Hippo(horse) clown! Augustinianism is lamer than lame! Even the Eastern Orthodox agrees even though he was from the Eastern Church, whom he also spoke Latin, whom tried to amend the "Great Schism", the Eastern Orthodox call him a clown and I am not Eastern Orthodox Catholic or any other type of Catholic and I am not a Protestant or "Undenominational". I am a pre-denominationalist only and reject every theology since the NT bible was written! And every goofy Pharisaical religious idea preceding the writing of the Newer Covenants!

Then perhaps you simply don;t have an accurate picture of the history of the christian faith.  No sweat there...theres a reason for that.  Right around two thousand sustained reasons for it, in fact.  

The only typer of christianity that we can identify as having existed before the construction of the NT was allegorical.  That was the cheif heresy that the NT orthodoxy set out to eradicate from the word go and it was an uphill battle for them.  It's why Origen was made as a consequence of his profession to convert people to an ideology which he did not share with them.  If you were a "pre-denominationalist and reject every theology specifically -since- the NT..you would be in the allegory camp.

Augustine had his head so far up his own ass he didn't even smell it! As far as the earliest church so called "fathers", whom were a bunch of anti-Semitic's, why on earth would I listen to them?

If I had to suggest an explanation, it's because you're confused.  

I don't care how far back the idiocy of allegory goes, I only went as far back as Origen. The Jews introduced the stupidest idea in the English language which is "spirit"! Really, is God a "Spirit"(don't quote that misunderstood, badly translated verse please) or, is God somehow, "spiritual"? Spirit from the Latin word spiritus which merely means: breath. Do you have any idea how desperately bad you would have to manipulate Scripture to come to any such conclusion of "spirit", "spirituality" or, "Trinity"?

You made a claim.  It was wrong.  Not a little bit wrong, hugely wrong..and you;re still making predictably innaccurate claims that obviously relate to that initial mistake.  The "idiocy of allegory" was the foundation of christian myth.  Literal interpretation of choice bits was a later invention of politically motivated actors and (I'm sure) a good deal of true but equally confused believers as yourself...but..importanly, the product of the very same set you describe here as a bunch of clowns you wouldn't associate yourself with.

God is preternatural and not, supernatural! He is a part of all that nature is which He established, NOT BEYOND IT! The Antioch school and the Alexandrian school often argued points especially Nestorius head of the Antioch seminary whom was anti-Roman Church and forced to flee for his life.

It was NEVER indented to be allegorical endless opinion. Just accept and we'll fill in the blanks later. The problem with the church is, they tried to fill in the blanks then without any understanding of what you know now! See the problem?

You are wrong here, demonstrably wrong.  The oldest extant christ myth is of a divine christ.  No life and ministry, no miracles, no resurrection appearances.  Nada.  These stories were later additions of allegory to divine events - that were subsequently -used- as a literal basis for an emerging orthodoxy in the proto catholic church.

Why on earth would anyone defend a man invented scripture and man invented church and at the same time be atheist? What, is it more fun that way? You know, attacking from both ends? Your talking to me, NOT whatever you invent the church to be! I know what the Greek NT says and doesn't say. I am the ekklEsia, the called-out of God. Not a hierarchal money grubber with an agenda of trolling!  

I don't know, why would anyone "defend" man made scripture...of the allegoric -or- literal variety?  It's a question that you're far better equipped to answer than I am.  

Before you say it, "So your right and everyone else is wrong?" That's everyone else's problem, not mine! I only wish I knew why me, why now! I do not question the fact that I DO exist right here, right now! Nor the fact that I am called to be magnificent! Cut me some slack, I'm on uncharted territory!

You're definitely off the res.......I'll give you that. but I want to stress here that my intention is not to challenge your beliefs and comments for the simple sake of making fun of you.  You are wrong about your own beliefs.  Not as a matter of opinion..and not as an allegory, literally wrong. Biblical literalism is an invention, not an authentic, pre-denominational, pre-NT faith. These are facts about your faith and the christian faith. If there turned out to actually be a literal jesus or a literal genesis..it would be an almost unfathomable coincidence of pure chance. Of life, somehow, imitating religion.