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RE: Prayer
January 11, 2018 at 1:32 pm
(January 11, 2018 at 1:31 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: If prayer is everything the religious say it is, then it would be more than just placebo effect. How many people without illness pray for people with illness? I hear it proclaimed all of the time, I'll pray for you. The one that's ill shouldn't even have to be a believer if prayer really worked. That would not be prayer placebo effect.

I'm sure the non ill prayers certainly feel better, no matter if the person lives or dies. That's called delusional effect.

It's worse than that - in the STEP studies the people who knew they were being prayed for did worse than placebo.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
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Prayer - by purplepurpose - January 10, 2018 at 11:55 am
RE: Prayer - by Huggy Bear - January 10, 2018 at 12:26 pm
RE: Prayer - by J a c k - January 10, 2018 at 12:45 pm
RE: Prayer - by Huggy Bear - January 10, 2018 at 2:47 pm
RE: Prayer - by c152 - January 10, 2018 at 2:56 pm
RE: Prayer - by drfuzzy - January 10, 2018 at 3:37 pm
RE: Prayer - by Grandizer - January 10, 2018 at 11:42 pm
RE: Prayer - by brewer - January 10, 2018 at 1:21 pm
RE: Prayer - by Angrboda - January 10, 2018 at 2:13 pm
RE: Prayer - by FatAndFaithless - January 10, 2018 at 2:20 pm
RE: Prayer - by brewer - January 10, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: Prayer - by SaStrike - January 10, 2018 at 2:24 pm
RE: Prayer - by Ravenshire - January 10, 2018 at 3:28 pm
RE: Prayer - by Huggy Bear - January 10, 2018 at 3:39 pm
RE: Prayer - by vorlon13 - January 10, 2018 at 12:28 pm
RE: Prayer - by FatAndFaithless - January 10, 2018 at 12:47 pm
RE: Prayer - by Minimalist - January 10, 2018 at 12:47 pm
RE: Prayer - by c152 - January 10, 2018 at 1:15 pm
RE: Prayer - by drfuzzy - January 10, 2018 at 1:28 pm
RE: Prayer - by notimportant1234 - January 10, 2018 at 1:36 pm
RE: Prayer - by FatAndFaithless - January 10, 2018 at 1:37 pm
RE: Prayer - by vorlon13 - January 10, 2018 at 1:38 pm
RE: Prayer - by purplepurpose - January 10, 2018 at 1:39 pm
RE: Prayer - by Minimalist - January 10, 2018 at 1:47 pm
RE: Prayer - by J a c k - January 10, 2018 at 2:02 pm
RE: Prayer - by purplepurpose - January 10, 2018 at 2:21 pm
RE: Prayer - by purplepurpose - January 10, 2018 at 3:54 pm
RE: Prayer - by Huggy Bear - January 10, 2018 at 4:08 pm
RE: Prayer - by JackRussell - January 10, 2018 at 4:13 pm
RE: Prayer - by Huggy Bear - January 10, 2018 at 4:52 pm
RE: Prayer - by purplepurpose - January 10, 2018 at 4:14 pm
RE: Prayer - by KevinM1 - January 10, 2018 at 4:31 pm
RE: Prayer - by purplepurpose - January 10, 2018 at 4:34 pm
RE: Prayer - by JackRussell - January 10, 2018 at 4:06 pm
RE: Prayer - by KevinM1 - January 10, 2018 at 4:11 pm
RE: Prayer - by FatAndFaithless - January 10, 2018 at 4:15 pm
RE: Prayer - by The Industrial Atheist - January 10, 2018 at 4:41 pm
RE: Prayer - by JackRussell - January 10, 2018 at 5:26 pm
RE: Prayer - by c152 - January 10, 2018 at 5:43 pm
RE: Prayer - by Huggy Bear - January 10, 2018 at 5:54 pm
RE: Prayer - by c152 - January 10, 2018 at 6:01 pm
RE: Prayer - by JackRussell - January 10, 2018 at 6:04 pm
RE: Prayer - by Huggy Bear - January 10, 2018 at 6:20 pm
RE: Prayer - by c152 - January 10, 2018 at 6:35 pm
RE: Prayer - by Huggy Bear - January 10, 2018 at 6:59 pm
RE: Prayer - by c152 - January 10, 2018 at 7:09 pm
RE: Prayer - by emjay - January 10, 2018 at 10:40 pm
RE: Prayer - by Huggy Bear - January 10, 2018 at 11:02 pm
RE: Prayer - by emjay - January 10, 2018 at 11:21 pm
RE: Prayer - by Ravenshire - January 11, 2018 at 3:18 pm
RE: Prayer - by JackRussell - January 10, 2018 at 5:58 pm
RE: Prayer - by The Industrial Atheist - January 10, 2018 at 6:40 pm
RE: Prayer - by possibletarian - January 10, 2018 at 7:13 pm
RE: Prayer - by Huggy Bear - January 10, 2018 at 7:22 pm
RE: Prayer - by possibletarian - January 10, 2018 at 9:36 pm
RE: Prayer - by Minimalist - January 10, 2018 at 9:51 pm
RE: Prayer - by Antares - January 10, 2018 at 10:30 pm
RE: Prayer - by Amarok - January 10, 2018 at 11:13 pm
RE: Prayer - by KevinM1 - January 11, 2018 at 12:57 am
RE: Prayer - by Minimalist - January 11, 2018 at 1:51 am
RE: Prayer - by FatAndFaithless - January 11, 2018 at 9:36 am
RE: Prayer - by Huggy Bear - January 11, 2018 at 12:08 pm
RE: Prayer - by FatAndFaithless - January 11, 2018 at 1:14 pm
RE: Prayer - by Huggy Bear - January 11, 2018 at 1:26 pm
RE: Prayer - by FatAndFaithless - January 11, 2018 at 1:26 pm
RE: Prayer - by Huggy Bear - January 11, 2018 at 1:51 pm
RE: Prayer - by FatAndFaithless - January 11, 2018 at 2:00 pm
RE: Prayer - by Huggy Bear - January 11, 2018 at 8:29 pm
RE: Prayer - by brewer - January 11, 2018 at 1:31 pm
RE: Prayer - by FatAndFaithless - January 11, 2018 at 1:32 pm
RE: Prayer - by Nay_Sayer - January 11, 2018 at 1:56 pm
RE: Prayer - by c152 - January 11, 2018 at 4:12 pm
RE: Prayer - by purplepurpose - January 11, 2018 at 2:15 pm
RE: Prayer - by Minimalist - January 11, 2018 at 8:42 pm
RE: Prayer - by KevinM1 - January 11, 2018 at 10:06 pm
RE: Prayer - by LastPoet - January 11, 2018 at 3:06 pm
RE: Prayer - by LastPoet - January 11, 2018 at 3:08 pm
RE: Prayer - by FatAndFaithless - January 11, 2018 at 3:09 pm
RE: Prayer - by Amarok - January 11, 2018 at 6:55 pm
RE: Prayer - by Amarok - January 11, 2018 at 9:51 pm
RE: Prayer - by Minimalist - January 11, 2018 at 10:18 pm
RE: Prayer - by purplepurpose - January 12, 2018 at 12:43 pm
RE: Prayer - by Banned - January 19, 2018 at 3:29 am
RE: Prayer - by Cod - January 19, 2018 at 4:16 am
RE: Prayer - by Fake Messiah - January 19, 2018 at 4:30 am
RE: Prayer - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 3:40 am
RE: Prayer - by Whateverist - January 19, 2018 at 10:41 am
RE: Prayer - by KevinM1 - January 19, 2018 at 11:43 am
RE: Prayer - by Succubus - January 19, 2018 at 3:49 am
RE: Prayer - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 4:00 am
RE: Prayer - by Banned - January 19, 2018 at 6:05 am
RE: Prayer - by Fake Messiah - January 19, 2018 at 6:14 am
RE: Prayer - by purplepurpose - January 22, 2018 at 3:24 am
RE: Prayer - by Fake Messiah - January 22, 2018 at 6:38 am
RE: Prayer - by GodisintheTV - January 24, 2018 at 2:32 pm

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