RE: William Lane Craig
August 25, 2011 at 11:27 am
(This post was last modified: August 25, 2011 at 11:43 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Firstly, willful obfuscation and intellectual dishonesty are not respectful. He's an ass. Secondly, proposing an unfalsifiable concept and then supporting it with fallacious "reasoning" is simple deception, not in any way some sort of knockdown argument for god.
One can say "I believe", or "I have faith", and there is no argument to counter it. Mostly because it is not an argument. It's just a declaration.
The minute you cross the line from faith to evidentialism you have doomed yourself to defending the indefensible. Faith and reason are mutually exclusive. If you have reason, faith is unnecessary. If you have faith, you need not appeal to reason.
You can try to marry the two but eventually one must give way to the other, making every step along the way redundant. If you have reasoned your way into faith you could have saved yourself the trouble and went straight to go. If faith has lead you to reason, it is only by way of abandoning faith.
I believe that you believe, why tank yourself? If these "airtight arguments" didn't exist, wouldn't you still believe? Can't you just avoid the whole matter entirely?
One can say "I believe", or "I have faith", and there is no argument to counter it. Mostly because it is not an argument. It's just a declaration.
The minute you cross the line from faith to evidentialism you have doomed yourself to defending the indefensible. Faith and reason are mutually exclusive. If you have reason, faith is unnecessary. If you have faith, you need not appeal to reason.
You can try to marry the two but eventually one must give way to the other, making every step along the way redundant. If you have reasoned your way into faith you could have saved yourself the trouble and went straight to go. If faith has lead you to reason, it is only by way of abandoning faith.
I believe that you believe, why tank yourself? If these "airtight arguments" didn't exist, wouldn't you still believe? Can't you just avoid the whole matter entirely?
