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Mental torture
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RE: Mental torture
(January 15, 2018 at 9:26 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(January 15, 2018 at 9:17 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don't think that it is a choose your own adventure type of thing.  And I would not say that a good theology, is what just suits your fancy! (whether that theology leads to atheism or Christianity) 

So then, it depends on what you mean by "sick concept".   I have the feeling that this is more of an emotional rejection, rather than a logical one.  So then, the question is, why do you think this, and why should I?

It's not something you explain with elaborate logical argumentation. It's just sick and barbaric in the same way I view other forms of torture as sick and barbaric (or actually, even worse). I can't convince you that it is, but then again, not my problem. I'm just glad I'm out of that mess of Christian apologetic nonsense.

So then it sounds like I was correct then, it is more of an emotional issue, rather than a rational one. 

This is naturally more difficult to discuss.  It's subjective, and thus varies from person to person with no connection between them. It can oppose reason, with little backing it.  It's not even really supported.

I do often find, in regards to this subject, many people's objections seem more fitting to a cartoon, rather than the Bible.  For instance while I don't think torture is completely incorrect as a translation , I sometimes see it giving people the wrong idea.  I would describe it more in terms of torment, and separation from God as a consequence of sin. 

The main thing is that you don't let your feelings determine what you view as reality (that would be insane).  It really doesn't mean any more, than a Christian objecting to an atheistic annihilationism, because they feel strongly against it's lack of justice.  Your feelings against it does not effect objective truth, and while they may be useful as a quick guide, if you cannot ground them in something greater, you may want to look at them closer
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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Mental torture - by purplepurpose - January 14, 2018 at 1:44 pm
RE: Mental torture - by Minimalist - January 14, 2018 at 2:01 pm
RE: Mental torture - by purplepurpose - January 15, 2018 at 2:13 pm
RE: Mental torture - by Banned - January 14, 2018 at 2:09 pm
RE: Mental torture - by purplepurpose - January 14, 2018 at 2:21 pm
RE: Mental torture - by Banned - January 15, 2018 at 6:49 am
RE: Mental torture - by RoadRunner79 - January 14, 2018 at 2:34 pm
RE: Mental torture - by purplepurpose - January 14, 2018 at 2:52 pm
RE: Mental torture - by RoadRunner79 - January 14, 2018 at 3:17 pm
RE: Mental torture - by Brian37 - January 15, 2018 at 6:59 am
RE: Mental torture - by Succubus - January 15, 2018 at 10:47 pm
RE: Mental torture - by Brian37 - January 14, 2018 at 3:00 pm
RE: Mental torture - by Little Rik - January 15, 2018 at 7:35 am
RE: Mental torture - by downbeatplumb - January 14, 2018 at 3:00 pm
RE: Mental torture - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 14, 2018 at 3:07 pm
RE: Mental torture - by brewer - January 14, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: Mental torture - by Brian37 - January 15, 2018 at 10:01 am
RE: Mental torture - by Grandizer - January 15, 2018 at 6:58 am
RE: Mental torture - by RoadRunner79 - January 15, 2018 at 9:17 am
RE: Mental torture - by Grandizer - January 15, 2018 at 9:26 am
RE: Mental torture - by RoadRunner79 - January 15, 2018 at 11:13 am
RE: Mental torture - by Grandizer - January 15, 2018 at 5:43 pm
RE: Mental torture - by vulcanlogician - January 15, 2018 at 7:02 am
RE: Mental torture - by Grandizer - January 15, 2018 at 8:03 am
RE: Mental torture - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 15, 2018 at 7:34 am
RE: Mental torture - by Minimalist - January 15, 2018 at 11:47 am
RE: Mental torture - by RoadRunner79 - January 15, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: Mental torture - by Ravenshire - January 15, 2018 at 1:07 pm
RE: Mental torture - by The Grand Nudger - January 15, 2018 at 2:06 pm
RE: Mental torture - by RoadRunner79 - January 15, 2018 at 2:23 pm
RE: Mental torture - by drfuzzy - January 15, 2018 at 5:34 pm
RE: Mental torture - by RoadRunner79 - January 15, 2018 at 5:45 pm
RE: Mental torture - by brewer - January 15, 2018 at 6:36 pm
RE: Mental torture - by Neo-Scholastic - January 16, 2018 at 2:09 pm
RE: Mental torture - by downbeatplumb - January 19, 2018 at 2:31 pm
RE: Mental torture - by The Grand Nudger - January 16, 2018 at 3:45 pm
RE: Mental torture - by purplepurpose - January 16, 2018 at 4:07 pm
RE: Mental torture - by The Grand Nudger - January 16, 2018 at 6:42 pm
RE: Mental torture - by Martian Mermaid - January 18, 2018 at 12:00 am
RE: Mental torture - by Neo-Scholastic - January 19, 2018 at 3:31 pm
RE: Mental torture - by downbeatplumb - January 21, 2018 at 6:17 am
RE: Mental torture - by Amarok - January 19, 2018 at 3:41 pm
RE: Mental torture - by purplepurpose - January 20, 2018 at 3:45 am
RE: Mental torture - by Grandizer - January 20, 2018 at 3:48 am
RE: Mental torture - by purplepurpose - January 20, 2018 at 3:50 am
RE: Mental torture - by Grandizer - January 20, 2018 at 12:05 pm

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